Home | Pioneers | Contact Us | Copyright/Disclaimer
Monaro Pioneers Research pages: Index | Books/Lookups | Tracing Land | Convicts
Monaro Pioneers Newsletter
2013 Number 7
REQUESTS:
SNOWY MOUNTAINS MUSEUM
From: Barry and Margaret
Sent: Sunday, 2 June 2013 4:09 PM
Subject: The Snowy Mountains Museum .rtf
Hi Ian
Would you please place this on the Monaro Pioneers home page for us please
Thanks Tracey & Margaret
The Snowy Mountains Museum at Adaminaby has been purpose built to show the history of the planning & subsequent building of the Snowy Mountains Scheme. The museum covers the period from 1947 to current times.
However it has been recognised that the period prior to this is in danger of being forgotten with the concentration these days being focussed on the Scheme.
With this in mind a section has been allocated to show the history prior to 1947.
At present the display is quite small, what is required are old photos of the Snowy Mountains districts, i.e. Berridale Adaminaby Jindabyne & surrounding districts. Ideally looking for old buildings, old farming techniques, family records or diary’s anything that that would give an insight into what life was like.
If you have anything of that nature that you think may be of interest please contact Tracey ( asst. Curator)
Phone: 02 64541601 Email: gleneden147@bigpond.com
Ps the museum is also very short on volunteers if you can spare an hour or two occasionally please contact Tracey.
WEH / HOFMEIER REUNION
A reunion to mark 130 years of the We / Hofmeier family settling in Woolgoolga is to be held on Saturday 31st August 2013 at Woolgoolga Bowling Club.
For all descendants of – Anna Maria Weh, her youngest daughter Anna Martha married John Adam Hofmeier.
Other siblings were John Weh, Louisa Weh. August Weh married Elizabeth Carlyon and resided in Warialda district.
For All enquiries Contact Darrell & Pat Davis 0402 022 008 or email jaycoranger@hotmail.com
Part of the Weh family settled on the north coast of NSW. But John and Louisa we know very little about other then they resided in Australia according to their mothers obituary and were still alive at time of their mothers death in 1886 according to her death certificate. We thought it was a possibility there could be somebody who might be checking your web site and have info or know of the family.
ROBINSON FAMILY REUNION
Current
correspondence:
FLETCHER
From: Trish Fletcher
Sent: Thursday, 8 August 2013 9:32 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Fletcher, John Frederick (I79103)
Proposed Change: Fletcher, John Frederick (I79103)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I79103&tree=MP
Description: Suggested amendments for CHILDREN of Fletcher, John Frederick and Fletcher Isabella (nee BROWN) (group sheet 67430)
1.Fletcher, Laura Isabella b. 23.12.1914 d. 10.3.1986 Goulburn m. 9.6.1937 Reuben SHANLEY b. 10.7.1910 d. 18.6.1987 2. Fletcher, Frederick George
b.28.4.1916 d. 18.8.2010 bur. Round Plain m. 26.2.1949 Elsie May ROBERTS b.
17 10 1919 d. 28.9.2008 bur. Round Plain
3.* Fletcher, Wallace Edward, currently at position 1 moves to position 3 4.
Fletcher, Francis Leonard b. 17.12.1919 deceased, date unknown Wagga Wagga m. 1947 Molly SMITH 30.4.1928 deceased, date unknown Wagga Wagga 5.*Fletcher, Charles Patrick, currently at position 2 moves to position 5
The following four children are still alive although 3 spouses are deceased, not sure whether or what to add...
6. Fletcher, Patricia Mary (alive)
m. 5.5.1945 Colin F. DANIEL b. 25.7.1918 deceased, date unknown 7. Fletcher, Colin Callistus (alive) m. 16.4.1955 Catherine ENGLEMANN b. 21.11.1929 d.
25.5.2010 Canberra 8. Fletcher, Adrian (alive) m. 26.5.1953 Lola Constance ROSSITER b. 9.8.1928 d. 29.5.2009 Holbrook
9 Fletcher, Bertram Joseph (alive)
m. 28.12.1953 Mary Frances DOUST (alive)
I hope some of this info is helpful. Please ask if you have any questions
:) Regards Trish
Thank you Trish, that information was very helpful.
Regards, Ian
ROBINSON
From: Sue Talbot
Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013 10:33 AM
Subject: Catherine Robinson
Hi there Ian,
I have been told that Catherine Robinson is descended from Oona Weppler, daughter of Arthur Richard Weppler and I would like to make contact with her please. Would you have her contact address (providing she agrees to you passing it on to me!).
My husband is the grandson of Charles Frederick Weppler/John Talbot - I advised you of my finding that Charles and John are the same person!
I am looking for information on Richard Weppler concerning the time he left home before returning to Bega after the Boer War.
With kind regards, Sue Talbot=
Hi Sue,
As you can see from the information on the Weppler page, we have no contact email address for Catherine Robinson unfortunately.
Regards, Ian
From:
Angela George
Sent: Tuesday, 6 August 2013 5:05 PM
Subject:
Hi all,
The Save the Hotel Australasia, Eden, movement has reached petitioning stage in our attempt to convince the developers that the original 1906 portion of the building should be retained and re-utilised as part of any future proposal. If you would like to add your name to the cause, click on the link: http://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/metcash-great-southern-developments-and-bega-valley-shire-council-bvsc-retain-the-australasia-from-facade-to-the-stair-wall-for-the-property-width
And if I'm sending this to anyone who has already signed, please accept my apologies.
Cheers and thanks, Angela
BUNFIELD
From:
Kellie
Sent: Tuesday, 6 August 2013 3:12 PM
Subject: BUNFIELD MURDER
Hi Ian,
very long interesting case about Ada Mary TURNER I22949 poisoning her husband Alick BUNFIELD I22917 .
Canberra Times 30 Aug 1929
"DRAMATIC FINALE
TO MICHELAGO INQUEST
WIDOW COMMITTED FOR TRIALDECLINES TO GIVE EVIDENCE
After an adjournment yesterday afternoon of theinquest on the death of Alec Bunfield at Michelago onAugust 4, to permit of the attendance of the widow,who had been summoned to the court, there was adramatic finale, when the coroner delivered his verdict.
He found that the deceased had come to his deathby strychnine poisoning, wilfully administered by AdaMary Bunfield, and committed her for trial at the Cen-tral Criminal Court at Sydney on November 28.
The inquiry into the death of AlecBunfield, the Michelago schoolmaster,who died of strychnine poisoning athis home on August 4, was continuedat the Coroner's Court, Queanbeyan,yesterday, when several witnesses tes-tified that the home life of the Bunfield's family appeared to be happy.
It was stated by Mr. F. Mitchell, representing the widow and family,that Mrs. Bunfield was too sick to giveevidence, and had already produced adoctor's certificate to that effect. Theinquiry was adjourned at 5 o'clockfor counsel to confer with Mrs.Bunfield about giving evidence at theinquiry.
Thomas H. O'Connor, of Canterbury,Sydney, said he had known the de-ceased man for some years and wasa frequent visitor to his home and tohis knowledge the relations betweenhe and his wife were always friendly.Witness had never heard the deceasedman speak of poison, nor had hementioned anything about it being inhis home. Witness detailed evidenceof collecting a parcel of medicine fromthe Cooma mail, on August 3, as re-quested by Mrs. Bunfield and putting
it on her bed. Harry Bunfield wasthere on that occasion. Witness had no idea there was strychnine in theparcel until informed by Mrs.Bunfield on Monday, August 5, the day after the death of Mr. Bunfield.This was after Constable Fyfe spoke
of strychnine poisoning being thecause of the death. He had never
heard the dead man threaten to takehis life, nor did he know of anyonehaving a grudge against him. On
Monday Mrs. Bunfield asked witnesswhether it would be best to inform thepolice of the obtaining of strychnine,and witness replied in the affirmative, and Constable Fyfe was informed ofthis fact. Witness identified the tin(produced) as the one brought in bythe constable, and that was the firstoccasion witness had seen it. He didnot think Mrs. Bunfield knew thatFyfe and a Mr. Wyatt were searchingthe house and grounds for strychnine.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mitchell,witness said that deceased was asecretive man, and did not discuss hisaffairs with anyone. The home lifeof the Bunfield's was very happy.
(Continued on Page 3).
MICHELAGO INQUEST
(Continued from Page 1).
Mavis Bunfield, of Michelago, daugh-ter of the deceased man, said shesaw her father at breakfast on theday of his death, and he appeared ill,and was not eating very heartily. Shewent to Cooma that day and did notsee him again until after his death.She was not aware that her motherhad ordered strychnine from chemistsat Cooma and Queanbeyan. Witnesshad written letters for her mother tothe Ladies' College of Health, Syd-ney, but the letter produced was inher mother's handwriting, and witnessdid not know of it before. She knewof no reason why her father shouldtake his life. Her mother was sub-ject to fits and had been treated bycountry and city doctors. After a fither mother's memory was bad.
Kevin R. Ryan detailed evidence ofhaving seen the deceased man on Sun-day, August 4, and of having been inhis bedroom during his convulsivespasms. He did not remember anyconversation at that time between thesick man and Mr. Wyatt.
William Kelly, grazier, Michelago,said he had known the deceased forseven years. On one occasion the de-ceased spoke to witness of his wife,who, he said, was neurotic and hys- terical, and complained that most ofhis money went for doctors' expenses
for her.
Timothy E. McMahon, of MichelagoStation, said he saw the deceased manon August 4, when he was lying sickin his room. In reply to a questionby witness in regard to the sickness,deceased said he had been eatingpeaches and seemed surprised that hisson Harry was not sick too, because
he said that Harry had more peachesthan he. Witness spoke of ptomaine
poisoning but deceased shook his head
and said, "No, it isn't that ; I know
what it is"! Deceased said, betweenconvulsive spasms, that the peacheswere very bitter, and that whateverit was, it "didn't get there of its ownaccord." Witness went outside and didnot see the deceased again until after
his death.
Henry Griffin, of Michelago, gaveevidence of having seen the deceasedon the day of his death, and detailedthe conversation between deceased,and Mr. McMahon to the effect of hishaving eaten peaches, but that hedidn't think that was the cause of thepoisoning, and repeatedly asked howlong the doctor would be. Also, thatdeceased slated: "Harry can't be allright, for he has eaten the same as
I have."
Henry A. Bunfield (14), of Berri-dale, a son of deceased, residing withhis mother, said his mother and father were always on good terms. Priorto his father's death he had never seen
any poison in his father's house nor had he used any himself there. Hehad never used baits for killing rab-bits, and had never heard his fatherspeak of strychnine or other poison.On the day of his father's death wit-ness arose about 8 a.m. and went tochurch at 8.45. When he returned at 10 o'clock his mother was up sittingby the fire and his father was in hisroom. Witness detailed particulars ofthe midday meal which included beef,peaches and custard, the latter madeby his mother. Witness got the tinof peaches from the cupboard andopened them at his mother's request,and left them standing on a table. Hisfather was not present at that time.The peaches were afterwards put intoa plate, and were partaken of withrice custard. His mother did not have custard. He remembered going to geta bucket of water, and his fatherasked him if he had tasted anythingbitter about the peaches, and whenwitness said "no," his father said,''You must have a funny taste." Wit-ness did not remember saying in hisstatement to the detective that hisfather was helping his mother intoher room. His mother was vomitingat the back door, and afterwards wentto her bedroom. After lying down fora time she got up and washed up thedinner things. The remains of thepeaches and the empty tin were thrown
into the back yard. About 15 minutesafter dinner his father called him
and he saw his father clinging to atank. Deceased asked witness to goto the post office and call a doctor.He afterwards gave his father somesoda to make him vomit. He hadnever seen the tin (produced) beforebeing shown it by Detective James,and he did not know it was in thehouse. He had heard that it wasfound in a rubbish tin, but he did notput it there, nor did he know who haddone so. He remembered receiving aparcel of medicine at Michelago postoffice on July 24, but could not re-member whether he gave it to hisfather or put it on his table.
Detective-Sergeant Kennedy re-en-tered the witness box, and stated thatin regard to some statements made bythe last witness there was a discrep-ancy in regard to the father gettingup first from the table, and also toother details after the midday mealon August 4.
Ada Mary Bunfield appeared at theinquiry and after being told that sheneed not give evidence unless she de-sired to do so, she declined to give
evidence.
The Coroner said that after inquiryinto the cause of the death of AlecBunfield on August 4 he found thatdeceased came to his death by strych-nine poisoning, wilfully administeredby Ada Mary Bunfield, and committedher to trial at the Central CriminalCourt, Sydney, on November 28.
Kellie
Typing Ada Bunfield into trove gives many many stories.
Goodness me, what a scandal?
Regards, Ian
From: Natalie Armstrong
Sent: Monday, 5 August 2013 5:06 PM
Subject: Comments
Comments: I am at present writing a book about the Men From Snowy River Recruitment March WW1, and notice you have a lot of photos of soldiers from the Coastal area, and I am wondering if you have any of individual marchers from the Bombala/Cooma area. I live in Delegate where the march commenced and we have photos in our museum of the men who left here. I would be grateful to receive any information as to where I could access any such photos.
Yours sincerely, Natalie Armstrong
Hi Natalie,
All the images we have are available on our website. If you have any photos we could use we would be most grateful for copies. If you also have a list of the march participants I would very much appreciate a copy so that we can flag those individuals in our database.
Regards, Ian
BERTHOLD
From:
Nick Benkert
Sent: Monday, 5 August 2013 8:28 AM
Subject: Corrections and additions to Monaro Pioneers
You have some Berthold’s in your database. I will try and explain the following corrections and additions. All places are Neckarsulm, Württemberg unless shown different. Franz Joseph Berthold born 1807 in Neckarsulm. You have his information and his wife correct. You list Unknown Berthold for father. His father was Franz Joseph Albin Berthold (*1.Mar.1777 +6.Nov.1833). Mother was Catherine Sidonia HERMANN (*12.Dec.1779 +28.OCT.1834). They were married 17.Feb.1806.
Next you have Heinrich Joseph Berthold born 1839 with Unknown Berthold for father. His parents were Franz Joseph Berthold (1807-1883) and Susanna Klara Bopp (1808-1843), same as you have listed for Wilhelmina Rosina Berthold. Heinrich and Wilhelmina were brother and sister. Heinrich Joseph Berthold died 17.Jan.1908 in Sydney, NSW.
Lastly, Wilhelmina and Heinrich had another brother and another sister who went to Australia. Franz Joseph Berthold (*10.Mar.1832 +27.Oct.1919 West Maitland) and Maria Isabella (*4.Mar.1837 +4.Aug.1923 Rockhampton, QLD).
If you have any questions let me know. I am related through the Hermann family.
Nick Benkert
East Sugnet Road
Midland, Michigan 48642
U.S.A.
Thank you Nick,
Regards, Ian
WARBURTON
From: Cathrine Constable
Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013 7:23 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Warburton, Verlinda Ethel (I133100)
Proposed Change: Warburton, Verlinda Ethel (I133100)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I133100&tree=MP
Description: Hi Ian,
Belinda WARBURTON (I8980) & Verlinda Ethel WARBURTON, daughter of John Thomas Warburton & Helen/Ellen Cowell, are the same person. NB: Belinda was registered with mother's name being Ellen, not Helen, like most of her sibling.
She 1st married to Tyson Boyle Donnelly as Verlinder.
Their first 4 children were registered with mother's name as Verlinder.
Her 4th child, a daughter, was given the name of Verlinder Mary.
She 2nd married George Luraschi Hartigan as Verlinder.
She died 1979, NSW 107440/1979, as Verlinda Ethel HARTIGAN, daughter of John & Ellen.
I believe that Verlinder is more likely the correct spelling based on the number of references to it.
Regards, Cathrine
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
SIMS
From:
Paul Dakin
Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013 12:48 PM
Subject: re george sims and elizabeth mullaly
Dear Ian
I have tried contacting the contributors to George Sims information, but with no luck. So I am now trying you. What I am trying to do is get in touch with descendants of George Sims and his first wife Elizabeth. I am hoping to possibly get a photo of Elizabeth. Is it possible for me to put in a request to the newsletter? If so, how do I go about it?
Thank you, Ian
Hi Paul,
This email will appear in our next newsletter.
Regards, Ian
BOSTOCK
From: Cathrine Constable
Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Bostock, Henry (I69458)
Proposed Change: Bostock, Henry (I69458)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I69458&tree=MP
Description: Hi Ian,
Just a few bits of info that I've managed to find about Henry.
Henry T. BOSTOCK
Died 19 Nov 1923, Marrickville NSW 17828/1923.
NB: NSW Death Index as BASTOCK.
Son of John Bostock & Mary
The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954), Wednesday 19 November 1924,
page 12
IN MEMORIAM.
BOSTOCK-In loving memory of my dear husband,
Henry T. Bostock died November 19, 1923, Aged 84
I loved him in life,
He is dear to me still,
In grief I must bend
to God's holy will
Inserted by his loving wife, Sarah
Regards, Cathrine
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
COLEMAN/BRITTEN
From:
Bruce Coleman
Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2013 7:10 PM
Subject: William Britten
Ian
Having completed a family tree 'Coleman/Britten' on "My Heritage" utilizing Monaro Pioneers as a reference, I am aware of extra information for some of my ancestors.
I would like to complete a review of computer based information for William Britten 1764 - 1839 and descendants, if no one else is currently doing so, and you think it appropriate.
Are you aware of any computer sites which should be avoided because of unreliability?
Please supply a sample of any format you use. If none, I will be guided by the use of your numbering system and how information is set out.
I noted, the previous page of information provided has been published.
Thank you
Regards, Bruce Coleman
Hi Bruce,
There is no guarantee of reliability of information for any site, you need to do your own verification to be absolutely certain. I use the Legacy program to manage the MP database and upload the information to MP site which is the format you currently see. If you plan to supply additional information to our project then any format is acceptable to us. If you need to extract more information from our database, there is a gedcom download facility provided.
Regards, Ian
Ian
Hi, Sorry it has taken so long to send you the results of my review.
It is stll not finished and thought I had better send you some info.
Please advise that you received eleven (11) pages.
Regards, Bruce Coleman
Thanks Bruce, received your document OK.
Regards, Ian
Ian
This is the last of the review for now.
If I come across future information, I shall keep you informed.
I can appreciate how much effort it must take to stay abreast of all details.
Best wishes, Bruce Coleman
Thanks Bruce,
Regards, Ian
HILL
From:
Rachel Patterson
Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013 3:49 PM
Subject: Hill family of Yass: Monaro Pioneers Project on Rootsweb
Hi there,
I've noticed a few errors in the records for my family in the Monaro Pioneers Project on Rootsweb and I hope this is the best way to let you know. Changes are:
Your ID: I287797: James Dick Hill b. 1831 Kentucky USA d. 23 May 1885 Tennessee USA
m. Marie Louisa de Saulles b. Sep 1846 Louisiana USA, d. 15 Jul 1934 Pau France
Their son was also called James Dick Hill (not de Saules):
Your ID: I287759: James Dick Hill b. 14 Feb 1863 South Carolina USA d. 19 Mar 1929 Yass NSW
m. Katherine Frances Mackintosh b. 7 Jul 1869 Yass NSW, d. 1942 Drummoyne NSW
Their son James de Saulles Hill, was my Grandfather.
I have more information on this family if you are interested. James Dick Hill (the elder) was the only surviving son of a prominent merchant from New Orleans who left him over a million dollars when he died in the 1850s. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tennhill&id=I2726
Thanks very much for publishing this information, it must be a time consuming job but is interesting and helpful to many.
Kind regards, Rachel Patterson.
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
From: Phyllis Dowling
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 1:53 PM
Subject: monaro pioneers
Ian, I have just been advised that there was an upgrade to ”our “” Mount Cooper Cemetery site with more photos added. I checked “ our” site and fortunately it is still the same and correct. But further down there was a site Mount Cooper Cemetery Image Results. and it had a lot of photos including the 3 from our site. If you click on the first photo which is a rock with a plaque on it you will see that it is in fact Cooper Mountain Cemetery in Washington Co. Oregeon. USA. Just how our Mount Cooper photos ended up on it and why it comes up as Mount Cooper instead of Cooper Mountain is anybody’s guess.. But I thought you needed to make it known about the error.
Regards Phyllis Dowling
Hi Phyllis,
Thanks, your email will be included in the next newsletter.
Regards, Ian
SERCOMBE
From: Bill
James Eldest son of Thelma's
Sent: Thursday,
25 July 2013 3:03 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Sercombe, Thelma Elsie (I64720)
Proposed Change: Sercombe, Thelma Elsie (I64720)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link:
http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I64720&tree=MP
Description: Hello Ian,
I was wondering if you would like to know of Mrs Thelma Elsie James' (nee
Sercombe) date that she died. She died on the 17th September, 2003 at the
Mayflower Nursing Home, Gerringong, NSW and was Cremated at the Rookwood
Crematorium. Hope you don't mind me writing to you but I thought you may
like to keep your wonderful site up to date.
Yours Etc.
Bill James.
Eldest son of Thelma\'s
Hi Bill,
Thank you.
Could you
also tell me who Thelma's parents were?
Regards,
Ian
Hi Ian.
Re Thelma Elsie Sercombe ( 164720)
PARENTS:
My mother's parents were : William James Sercombe born 7th December 1879 in Tanja near Bega, NSW. Australia. Died, 14th July, 1943 at St George District Hospital, Kogarah, NSW. Australia.
Birth registered in Bega. 10286/1880
Death registered in Kogarah. 19481/1943.
Eden Monaro Pioneers Person ID No. 1143738
WIFE. Alice Taylor born 16th March 1887 in Gibbs St, Bega, NSW. Australia. Died 15th January, 1970 at St George District Hospital, Kogarah. NSW. Australia.
Birth registered Bega. 20340/1887.
Death registered Kogarah. 12734/1970.
Eden Monaro Pioneers Family ID Group Sheet. F41608.
Ian, William and Alice had six children overall . Are you interested in their names etc ???
All the best to you and your helpers.
Bill James.
Hi Bill,
Thank you, that information was very helpful. Yes, the details of the missing children would be much appreciated.
Regards, Ian
From: Tim the Yowie Man
Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013 1:04 PM
Subject: Obelisk
Hi Ian
I'm trying to locate the obelisk south of Bredbo which commemorates Currie, Ovens and Wild. I understand it's 6km east of the highway, but that's all the info I have. I hope to visit it this weekend. Do you know if it's on public land?
Thought you might know.
Regards, Tim the Yowie Man
Columnist, The Canberra Times=
Hi Tim,
Sorry, I have no knowledge of that landmark unfortunately.
Regards, Ian
SYMONS (SIMMONS)
From:
Bob Preo
Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2013 8:28 AM
Subject: Catherine Symons
Hello Team
I have had some confusion over the surname of the children of William SYMONS (SIMMONS) and Jane CONNOR (O’CONNOR) especially Catherine SYMONS who was born and died in 1866. So I requested a Death Transcription to try and sort it out.
I have attached the Death Transcription for Catherine which clearly shows spelling of her (and parents) surname and death location. I believe Bembooka is in fact Bemboka.
Much of the confusion is caused through the birth names being SYMONS and the death names for the same people, SIMMOMS. Ahh, the joys of Family history. Hope this helps.
Best regards, Bob Preo
Thanks Bob,
Regards, Ian
BURGESS
From: Michelle
Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 5:16 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Burgess, Doris Matilda (I267952)
Proposed Change: Burgess, Doris Matilda (I267952)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I267952&tree=MP
Description: Ian,
Doris actually married ROBERT JAMES PACKETT -son of Edwin Packett & Agnes Cassidy . Robert James Packett was mentioned as a son in Edwin Packetts obituary of 1913.
Doris & Robert lived at Tumut and Moss Vale where Doris died 2 August 1992.
The Robert John Packett who was born 1911 was the son of Robert Wallace Packett & Ada E.A. Jamieson.
Cheers, Michelle
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
MORRIS
From: Michelle
Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 3:27 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Morris, Milton C. (I267915)
Proposed Change: Morris, Milton C. (I267915)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I267915&tree=MP
Description: The Tumut Advocate and Farmers & Settlers' Adviser Tuesday 14 March 1911 page 2 On Thursday night last at nine o'clock Mr. and Mrs. Frank Morris, of Brungle, had the misfortune to lose their 5 weeks old infant son, who had been delicate from birth. Jaundice was given as the cause of death.
The remains were buried in the Tumut new cemetery on Saturday.
[Date of death 9th March?]
Michelle
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
MORRIS
From: Michelle
Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 2:39 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Morris, Hazel Elizabeth Ann (I138274)
Proposed Change: Morris, Hazel Elizabeth Ann (I138274)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I138274&tree=MP
Description: Hi again Ian
"Our" Hazel Elizabeth Ann Morris" was the daughter of JOHN MORRIS (
1886-1953 Tumut- son of John Morris & Elizabeth Packett) and IVY EMMA ANN KEENAN (c1882-1987).
Hazels' marriage to John Henry Naughton (aka Harry) was noted in The Albury Banner as being held 1 July 1938 at All Saints Tumut.
Cheers, Michelle
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
REED
From:
Carol Watson
Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2013 1:26 PM
Subject: re Hamilton Reed photos
Please note the photo of Amy Beatrice Reed and children on Hamilton Reed section of Monaro Pioneers sent in by Julie Reed has incorrect caption.
Photo in question is of Amy Beatrice Reed [ wife of William Reed ] and eldest son Will ,standing, and new-born Grace Elizabeth on mother’s knee
Photo taken some years before Bertha was born.
[Trivia ... Grace Elizabeth at 104 yrs of age sole living member of children born to William and Amy]
Could this caption please be corrected ?
Yours... Carol Watson [daughter of Bertha Isabel Reed ]
Thank you Carol, the requested amendment has been made.
Regards, Ian
MAYO
From:
John and Rhonda MacMahon
Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013 1:05 PM
Subject: monaro pioneers
Dear Ian
About a month ago I wrote suggesting inclusion of Joseph Mayo and his family (Goulburn) in the Monaro pioneers. I saw your work today and was amazed and thrilled at what you had been able to achieve.
Perhaps I could add a little more information.
1. Joseph Mayo senior married a second time - 4 January 1866 to Eleanor Fortescue at the Wesleyan Church. She was a widow from Cambridgeshire and came to the marriage with five children. Her only son, Arthur Fortescue, established a saddlery business in Goulburn. She died in Goulburn in 1908.
There are a couple of points of interest re the marriages of his children.
Ann Mayo - after the early death of her husband, Robert Ward, she supported her family by caring for the children of Edward Twynam, the District Land Surveyor. She was killed when the buggy in which she was travelling with his children overturned and paralysed her - she died a week later. Robert Ward's father had been sent as a convict to NSW in 1849 for his part in industrial riots in England - he was pardoned in the same year he arrived in Australia.
Joseph junior - his wife's father, William Wyatt, was a shoemaker in Lake Bathurst - he too arrived in NSW as a convict in 1845 aboard the “Surrey”. He died after being gored through the head by a bull at Campbelltown. His wife Elizabeth actually had four children - David and William at Tarago plus Lydia and one other daughter. She died at her son’s residence in Tarago in 1895 aged 72.
George Mayo - you have all the detail of the family of his wife's father shown via the entry for Lucy Roberts but Robert Roberts himself and his wife is not shown as a pioneer. Together with his brother, John, Robert came to NSW in 1835 and took up land in Windellima - which is still in the hands of the family.
Hope this is of some interest and again thanks for your efforts.
Regards
John
PS - you may have an interest in Edward Twynam above - brief details are -
1923 - Mr. Edward Twynam, formerly Surveyor-General of NSW, died at Riversdale, North Goulburn. He was born at Bishopstoke, Hampshire and came to Australia at age 23. He was the last survivor of 12 surveyors brought out from England in 1855.
He became district land surveyor based in Goulburn in 1864 and married Emily Bolton in 1866. He remained in Goulburn until he went to Sydney to become Surveyor-General of NSW. Fifty years ago he acquired Riversdale, North Goulburn.
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
LUCAS
From: Wendy Deacon
Sent: Thursday, 18 July 2013 11:50 AM
Subject: Comments (Lucas, Thomas b. 1842 NSW d. 1909 Nimmitabel, NSW)
Comments (Lucas, Thomas b. 1842 NSW d. 1909 Nimmitabel, NSW): Hi Ian, more dots: Thomas Lucas b:23.2.1842 Numerella,Monaro-d:15.11.1907 Sydney, bur.:Randwick Cem.
marr:Mary Ann Flynn 30.12.1863 Cooma. Mary Ann b:16.12.1845 Numerella,Monaro. d:1.8.1937 Sydney, bur.: Randwick cem. She was daughter of Jeremiah/Margaret nee Roche. Info. from book "Pioneers of the Snowy Mountain" compiled by The Snowy Monaro Family History Group Inc Special Projects Committee. Not sure when printed but foreward by Leony Power. regards Wendy.
Wendy Deacon
Thanks Wendy,
However, I question the death details for Thomas Lucas because of the following....
Regards, Ian
BEILEITER
From:
dialb
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013 4:54 PM
Subject: Beileiter Family Tree
I have been doing my family tree for some time now and I have downloaded the tree for Beileiter, Johann Georg 1802 to 1874 6 generations from the web site. I believe that there are a few things that should be corrected and a few others that need to be added. I don’t know the best way to do this. Maybe you could put me in contact with the persons that supplied the information and we could discuss it.
Please advise on what I should do.
Thanks, Alan Beileiter
Hi Alan,
Please send your corrections/additions to me and I will update our records.
Regards, Ian
Ian
This could take a bit but I will try to keep it short. The easiest way to relate to people is to use the number system that is associated with each person when you download the Descendant tree of Johann Georg Beileiter that is on your web site.
2 Johannes Beileiter married Anna Barbara Hoffman. I have her birth date as 14 March 1828 not 19th probably have to be checked.
4 Johann Georg Beileiter. Notes don’t make sense the Pambula Voice 2/12/1898 says that he was in his 81st year this would mean that he was born in 1817 but I agree with the date that you have 1829. Also his wife Elisabetha Herb I have as born in same date 1821 and this would agree with the Pambula Voice as it states she died at the age of 76.
12 George Beileiter on his daughters marriage certificate it states that he was born at sea not Bombala. No record of birth can be found as yet.
13 John Beileiter on his death certificate 7698/1944 it states 1944. This happens in 2 locations. On page 3 where he is again stated I have 15 children not 14 this is stated on his death certificate as well. Also some how it seems to show that he was married twice to a person by the name of Sarah Ellen Ralphs and Sara E ? but this shows that both had a daughter 45 Brenda Grace Beileiter. After 42 Charles Lyons I have Ellen Isabella born 1898 no certificate though.
14 Susan Beileiter on her birth certificate V1859 155 155/1859 it states Eva S. with the surname spelt Beileiden. I have her middle name as Susanna.
16 Catherine Beileiter was born in 1864 according to her birth certificate 6591/1864 and I have her death as 28th November not 29th. Surname is spelt Belluter on her marriage certificate.
17 William Beileiter (this is my grandfather) cannot find his birth certificate but have the same dates. Married Mary Fanny Phillips according to her birth certificate. Their child 71 Harold William on his birth certificate it says William Harold.
18 Donald Beileiter also had another child Olive May born 1893 birth certificate 39014/1893.
20 George Beileiter child 88 has Muriel May on birth certificate and Hilda Muriel on Baptism.
23 Eva Beileiter on her birth certificate she was born 22 June 1861 so how can they also have a daughter 24 Mary Ann Beileiter born 6 March 1861. I cannot find this certificate but can find where Mary Ann married William Kellond. I believe that they are one of the same person which happened in those days giving different names for Birth, Death and Marriages.
28 Hilda May Beileiter daughter of George and Martha didn’t marry that I can find but had 2 children Robert Edward 1920 – 1979 and Dorthory 1923 – ?. 88 Hilda Muriel daughter of George and Ada married William Warland.
32 Arthur Ernest Beileiter had 2 other children Alex James 1923 – 2002 and Keith 1925 – 1977.
35 Barbara Ellen Beileiter I have been born as 3 Jan 18836 William Charles married Vera Pearl but according to birth certificate name was Lena V 7299/1892
37 Catherine Beileiter I have died in 1968 but cannot find certificate.
40 Nellie Elvira Mary Beileiter according to birth certificate Millie Elvira Mary certificate 7574/1893.
41 Arthur Samuel Beileiter married Lena Maud Beveridge who I have as died in 1979 certificate 102825/1979 with the remarried surname of Maxwell.
42 Charles Lyons Beileiter had another 2 children Frederick C 1921 – 1921 and Irene Ruth 1923 – ? she married David Tomlin.
46 Marjory Sarah Beileiter child 122 Donald I only have Rex and he is still alive in Moree.
49 Edith Maria Cameron had one child that I know of Thelma
59 Lewis Hamilton Beileiter married Rose Jane Williams they had 3 children Kenneth Joseph 1930 he in turn married and has 5 children, Marie Ann 1935 married with 2 children and Howard John 1936 he also is married with 3 children. I have all the wife’s husbands and children’s names if you want them.
62 Ida May Elton married James William Brandbury his birth certificate says Brandbury but his marriage and death certificates say White
67 Gwendoline Marion Elton married Lionel Devereux but cant find anywhere where she married a Morton.
71 Harold William Beileiter birth certificate says William Harold he also had another child Brian Phillip (my cousin) married and has 3 daughters all married with their own children. Their other son mentioned 139 William died in Coolamon not Bombala.
72 Donald Roy Beileiter married Muriel Davoren ( my parents) they had 3 children Valerie June , Patricia Kay and Alan Roy all with their own families
73 Olive May Beileiter married Samuel George Jansen Ingram I have him as being born 3 July 1892.
82 William Charles Roberson married Ivy Jean Collman they have 3 children Charles robert, Mark and Louisa.
88 Muriel May Beileiter birth certificate says Muriel May and Baptism which refers to her birth certificate number it had Hilda Muriel she married Warland and had 1 child that I know of.
90 William James Beileiter I cannot find any reference of him being in the service for WW1 he is not on the nominal roll nor on Embarkation.
94 Clarice Valerie Beileiter was born 9/12/1892 birth certificate 6613/1893 refers she was registered in 1893.
101 Linda Ethel Kellond married Frank Rupert Zingel they had another child named Judith.
106 Ernest Arthur Beileiter I have as being born 1921. He Married Mary Cobcroft in 1944 and then Olive Alice O’Neil in 1950.
108 Eileen Edith Kellond married Charles Bede Vider they had 3 children Mary Yvone , Kathleen Ann and Charles William.
110 Clarice Constance Kellond I have as being born in 1919.
111 Gwendoline May Kellond born 23/3/1912 died 11/6/1972
112 Patricia Joan Kellond born 15/11/1922
113 Marjorie Joyce Kellond born 23/12/1915 married Norman John McClung in 1953.
115 Eva Grace Beileiter according to death certificate died in Newtown.
117 Mavis Ruby Beileiter according to me was born 23/11/1927 and died 17/11/1996
118 Doreen Catherine Toms has Doreen M on her birth certificate.
121 Vera Annie Beileuiter married John Ross Maconachie I have him as being born 17/11/1929. They had 2 children Jane Ann and Ian John. This info was from Vera prior to her death.
128 Katherine Elizabeth McNeely her birth certificate her name starts with a C not K and Surname is MacNeely.
130 Marjorie Olive Stokes she married George Robert Rutherford.
139 William Harold Beileiter died 4/1/1956 in motorcycle accident at Coolamon not Bombala. He is buried at Bombala.
140 Noel Clive Ingram died in 1979
143 Christopher John Urban Momsen married Augusta Maud Kemp in 1914 and then Audrey Alice O’Brien in 1944.
163 Susan Beileiter married Brian Morgan in 1992 and has 2 children. I have names and birth dates.
164 Julie Ann Beileiter married William Clancy Peadon 1982 and has 2 children. I have names and birth dates.
165 Donald Beileiter married Belinda Louise Campbell 1982 and they have 3 children all boys. I have names and birth dates.
Ian if you have information that I do not have I would be please to receive it from you. Also if you can find anything that I have said wrong would you also please let me know as I would like to have all the correct information. BDM only allows you to search births till 1912 , deaths till 1982 and marriages till 1962 any dates that I have later than these I have received form other family members after corresponding with them. I have found in my searching that the name Beileiter has been spelt about 20 different ways.
Hope this helps and if you want further info and I can help please let me know.
Thanks, Alan Beileiter
Hi Alan,
Thank you for the information. I have updated our database so you can see the new information on our site. I have also given you more access rights so you can see the details of the living people supplied. The Pioneers Index page for the Beileiter family now lists you as a contributor. The database can store certificate images and photos linked to the individuals concerned if you would like to send them to me.
Regards, Ian
LESLIE
From: Catherine Young
Sent: Wednesday, 17 July 2013 10:24 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Leslie, Elsie Jean (I234479)
Proposed Change: Leslie, Elsie Jean (I234479)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I234479&tree=MP
Description: Received her death certificate today. Says buried at Presbyterian Cemetery Randwick not Methodist. Date of burial was 30 November
1927 (day after she died).
Catherine Young
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
THOMPSON
From: James Tuckett
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013 12:49 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Thompson, Thomas (I133867)
Proposed Change: Thompson, Thomas (I133867)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I133867&tree=MP
Description: Mary Ann Tuckett was baptised on 20 April 1834 at Harberton, Devon and the event was recorded in the Harberton parish registers (No.
994). Mary Ann died on 24 August 1919 aged 87, Ballarat, Victoria (10385/227). Mary Ann Tuckett was one of eleven children of George and Harriet Tuckett.
Parents of Mary Ann Tuckett were George Tuckett and his wife Harriet, maiden name Wyatt. George and Harriet were married, by banns, on 29 December 1829 at St Andrews church in Harberton, Devon. They were bounty emigrants who arrived in Sydney on 24 June 1841 on the sailing ship Earl Grey. George went to work on land well to the south of Goulburn, called Maneroo. He worked as a labourer for William Bradley, son of Jonas Bradley, a sergeant of the NSW Corps. George Tuckett was listed on 6 December 1844 in the NSW Government Gazette with a postal address of Maneroo Plains. George then worked as a shepherd on Jindabyne until about 1845 and then worked on Bullanamang Station that was, by then, managed by a William Adams Brodrigg, son of an English convict in Tasmania. William Brodrigg managed a number of Bradley’s squatter leases, including Bullanamang.
Regards, James Hylton Tuckett, New Zealand
Thank you,
Regards, Ian
HAWKINS
From:
Norma Webb
Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013 11:38 AM
Subject: Additions to James Hawkins and Catherine Hayes
I have the following details on the above. Altogether they had 11 children, which 5 were not registered and on both their death certificates their childrens ages were very different so they have been very hard to find. James was a brother to my gggrandfather Peter Hawkins.
Catherine Hayes/Hawkins died 19 Jan 1939/ref,04126 Sydney and buried at Rookwood R/C Cemetery
Ellen Bridget b 1873/09610 marr Frederick Butler 1920/6741 Sydney and died as Ellen Elizabeth Butler 1 Sept.1965 Sydney and buried at Rookwood R/C Cemetery
Esther B born c1875 not registered and married Michael Leary and Nicholas Bennett as your records show but I couldn't find her death but your records have her dying in Victoria and another marriage.
Annie b c1877 not registered and marr James Joseph Atherton (not registered) and died 28 October 1958 Sydney and buried at Rookwood R/C cem
Mary Jane b c1877 not registered and marr William Summerill 1900/5832 Bombala and died 27 July 1958/24872 and buried in Bombala R/C Cem
Thomas Michael b 1881/29558 but registered as Thomas Peter and marr Susan Margaret Ulrich at Bombala 20 July 1904/3462 and died in Wollongong 26 August 1942 and buried at Bombala
Catherine Linda b 1882 not registered and marr Frederick James Sillince 20 Nov 1915/15485 and died 27 June 1960/18581 and buried at Rookwood R/c cem
John Joseph b c1890 not registered and marr Doris I Miller 1925/12380 Sydney and died 28 April 1937/8565 and buried at Rookwood R/C Cem
Edward Peter b 1891/07316 marr Linda Schwer 1925/1926 in Sydney and died 29 April 1956/7787 Sydney and buried at Rookwood R/C cem
Caroline Winifred b 1894/07018 marr Alfred Vye Rowe 26 Nov 1932/13614 Sydney and died 1 May 1961/8607 Sydney and buried at Rookwoood R/C Cem
I have had a busy time with this family and thank you for the details of the Victorian marr and death of Esther Hawkins, she was the only one I did'nt have her date.
Some of the unregistered children did have children if you need these just let me know.
Many thanks, Norma D Webb
Thank you Norma,
Regards, Ian
McKEE/CHAPMAN
From:
Michael / Maureen Jennings
Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2013 6:57 PM
Subject: DAVID McKEE (ID I97339) and LUCY CHAPMAN (ID I97340)
G'day Ian
1. The attached are clippings from National Library of Australia TROVE Australian newspapers collection which show date of death:
(a) 11 Feb 1878 for David McKee (ID I97339 in your database); and
(b) 23 Nov 1866 for Lucy McKee formerly Chapman (ID I97340 in your database).
who are the parents of Joseph McKee (ID I2654 in your database).
2. Apart from Joseph, there are references in the newspaper clippings to a David McKee who is older brother of Joseph and eldest son of David and Lucy.
3. This David McKee (the son) was born about 1818 in Eastbourne, Sussex, England. He migrated to Australia in 1848 with his wife Mary McKee formerly Rooke. They married at Brixton, Lambeth, London England in 1842.
4. David and Mary lived in the Eden-Monaro district. David was a member of the NSW police force who was appointed 1 Feb 1861 at the rank of constable in the Southern Command and left the force, due to ill health, on 31 Aug. 1876. He died 26 Dec 1879 and is buried in Pambula.
5. David was probably the first resident policeman stationed at Nimmitabel. Reference the website of Nimitybelle Court & Lockup Museum - see attached extract.
6. I have not (as yet) tracked a death and burial record for Mary Ann McKee (Rooke) - I guess she might be buried in Pambula or perhaps returned to England or remarried??
7. David McKee and Mary Ann Rooke had no children and it seems, therefore, their story as early pioneers in Monaro has been lost to the dust of time.
8. Also attached are the following:
(a) David's death certificate 1880/006532 - source NSWBDM; and
(b) David's death notice 6 Jan. 1880 - source NLA TROVE newspaper collection.
9. In the 6 Jan 1880 death notice, David's residence is shown as "Blenheim Cottage, Pambula". Do you have any records/information at to this location from 1880?
Cheers, Michael Jennings
Thank you Michael,
I suggest you try the Bega Valley Historical Society in Pambula for the answer to your question "Blenheim Cottage, Pambula".
http://thebegavalley.org.au/bvgenealogy.html
Regards, Ian
BALL
From: Wendy Deacon
Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2013 9:47 AM
Subject: Comments (Ball, William Alexander b. 1873 Bombala, NSW d. 21 Jan
1942 Bega, NSW)
Comments (Ball, William Alexander b. 1873 Bombala, NSW d. 21 Jan 1942 Bega,
NSW): Hi Ian, I did this history for a friend, so no certificates to prove any thing, word of mouth,library,museum & BD&M.
Her family is Barrington/Ball/Mitchell etc. Here are a few more details.
Aubrey S D Barrington 1900 Candelo-17.2.1968 Bega.
George Frederick Barrington 27.9.1902 Tantawanglo. sons of Frederick J/Henrietta nee Lucas.
Rob Roy Ball marr:Florence Jean Barrett 1932 Bega.b:1915 Bega. dau. of Charles F/Amy nee McDonald.
Albert George marr. Gloria May Wilson.1953 Newtown (alive) Harold Gordon marr:Margaret Schuback 1949 Bega
regards W.Deacon
Thank you Wendy,
Regards, Ian
WARNER
From: Paul MacVean
Sent: Saturday, 13 July 2013 4:28 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Warner, Susan (I231716)
Proposed Change: Warner, Susan (I231716)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I231716&tree=MP
Description: Susan Warner died in Canberra hospital 27 February 1938 according to her obituary published in The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926 - 1995), Tuesday 1 March 1938, page 2. Details can be accessed at TROVE-
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/printArticlePdf/2453157/3
Paul MacVean
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
HAMMOND
From: John Hammond
Sent: Saturday, 13 July 2013 12:16 PM
Subject: William Pitt Hammond
Dear Sir Madam
I refer to an entry in your database for William Patrick Hammond
· ID: I135798
· Name: William Patrick HAMMOND
· Given Name: William Patrick
· Surname: Hammond
· Sex: M
· Death: Y 1
Marriage 1 Catherine GOGGIN b: 1870 in Araluen, NSW
· Married: 10 Feb 1895 in Bungendore, NSW 2
Children
1. Thomas F. HAMMOND b: 28 Apr 1896 in Captains Flat, NSW
2. William Patrick HAMMOND b: 1897 in Captains Flat, NSW
3. Mary Jessie L. HAMMOND b: 6 Jul 1899 in Captains Flat, NSW
4. Charles R. P. HAMMOND b: 10 Oct 1901 in Cobargo, NSW
5. Jack HAMMOND b: 1906 in Cobargo, NSW
6. Joseph Pitt HAMMOND b: 1909 in Bega, NSW
William Patrick Hammond is named incorrectly. He is William Pitt Hammond, details as below:
William Pitt6 Hammond (William Simmons5, John4, John3 Hammonds, Thomas2 Hammond, Thomas1) was born 7 December 1870 in Hobart, Tasmania, and died 7 February 1947 in Canberra, Australian Capital Territory. He married Catherine Goggin1 10 February 1895 in Bungendore, New South Wales, daughter of Daniel Goggin and Mary Goggin. She was born 7 November 1870 in Araluen, New South Wales, and died 3 May 1948 in Canberra Community Hospital, Canberra, Australian Capital Territory.
Notes for William Pitt Hammond:
Birth of William Pitt Hammond
HAMMOND -On 7th December, Mrs. W S Hammond, of a son.
The Mercury (Hobart, Tas. : 1860-1954) Saturday 31 December 1870 Page 2 of 4
MR. W. P. HAMMOND
Mr W. P. Hammond was born on 7th December 1870 at Hobart Tasmania, where he spent his early years. At the age of 19 he crossed over to the mainland and was at Captain's Flat during the boom days in the nineties and took a leading part in the sporting and civic activities of that town, being secretary of the racing, cricket, and football clubs, a foundation member of the School of Arts and secretary of the Progress Committee, the election for members of same being conducted on the same basis as the Parliamentary elections, a full day being set aside for the voting and a polling booth established with returning officer, poll clerk, and scrutineers. From 1901 to 1921 he resided at Cobargo on the South Coast of N.S.W., where he was engaged in business and was identified with all the public bodies of that town, being president of the cricket and football clubs, Chairman of the Park Trust and a committee man of the A. P. and H. Society and School of Arts. In 1902 he assisted in the formation of a branch of the A.L.P., and was elected president, which office he held during the remaining of his residence in Cobargo. He was also president of the first Electoral Council for Eden- Monaro. He has been a resident of Canberra for nine years and is a member of the local executive of the A.W.U. and Vice-President of the A.L.P.
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926-1954) Friday 16 May 1930 Page 7 of 8
OBITUARY
MR. W. P. HAMMOND
The death of William Pitt Hammond, of Ainslie, has removed one of the pioneers of the Labour movement in Canberra and a well-known identity since the early construction days of the National Capital.
The late Mr. Hammond was born in Hobart in 1870 and when a young man participated in the Western Aus- tralian gold rush in the early nineties.
After working for some time in Western Australia, he returned to Captain's Flat, which was then experiencing the first signs of a gold boom and set up in business there. He married in 1899 and later moved to Cobargo, where he took over the Post Office Hotel. The deceased left Cobargo in 1921 and arrived in Canberra early in 1922. He became a clerk to the late Jerry Dillon, foreman of the sewer con- struction gang, and one of the most dynamic men the capital has known. He transferred in later years to the Parks and Gardens, retiring in 1940, although during the war years he was employed as a reader at the Government Printing-office.
He was a foundation member of the A.L.P., which was formed in Canberra in 1927, and with Mr. S. J. Blumenthal and Mr. A. E. Gardiner was appointed to a special Disputes Committee by the then Minister for Interior (Arthur Blakely).
The late Mr. Hammond nominated for the first Advisory Council in 1930 as an A.L.P. candidate, but was unsuccessful.
He was one of the staunch men of the industrial movement in Can- berra and fought tirelessly for better conditions for workers. We lost a good fighter in the late Mr. Ham- mond, said the secretary of the A.C.T. Trades and Labour Council (Mr. S. J. Blumenthal) yesterday.
Mr. Blumenthal added that when the deceased became interested in a case, he worked so tirelessly that he often forgot his own well-being.
The deceased is survived by a widow, Mrs. Catherine Hammond, a daughter Jessie (Mrs. Roberts), and four sons, Pat, Jack, Joe and Fred. Two of his sons, Frank and Charles, pre-deceased him.
The Canberra Times (ACT : 1926-1954) Tuesday 11 February 1947 Page 2 of 4
For your information
John Hammond
Thank you,
Can you please tell me if one of his sons Jack Hammond served in the army in WW2?
Name
HAMMOND, JACK
Service
Australian
Army
Service Number
N391101
Date of Birth
31 Jan 1896
Place of Birth
COBARGO, NSW
Date of
Enlistment
27 Mar 1942
Locality on
Enlistment
BRADDON, ACT
Place of
Enlistment
PADDINGTON, NSW
Next of Kin
HAMMOND, CATHERINE
Date of
Discharge
3 Jun 1944
Rank
Private
Posting at
Discharge
13 GARRISON BATTALION
WW2 Honours and
Gallantry
None for display
Prisoner of War
No
I know the birth year is 10 years earlier than the NSW BDM registration but the NOK is Catherine (mother) and there are no other Jack or John Hammonds born in the Bega district in that 20 year period. The BDM Index is often incorrect.
Regards, Ian
Hello Ian
Thank you for your quick response to my e-mail.
Attached is a genealogy report for William Pitt Hammond and his children.
Yes, I can confirm that John Pitt Hammond was commonly known as Jack Hammond, and that the service record you have below is his.
If required I can dig out birth certificate information for the children.
Regards
John Hammond
Thank you John,
Regards, Ian
JOHNSON
From: Wendy Deacon
Sent: Saturday, 13 July 2013 11:25 AM
Subject: Comments (Johnson, James)
Comments (Johnson, James): Hi Ian, some more dots for you.William Charles Johnson b:8.7.1911 Cooma. d:20.1.1984 Bega. parents:Charles/Helena nee (Hemmings).mar. Myrtle Wallace 18.9.1934 Cooma. b:28.1.1916 Cooma.
d:17.3.1876 Bega. parents:Percy/Sarah nee (Bolton)
3 children. youngest: Barry William Johnson b:28.6.1938 Bega
d:16.6.2012 Bega. marr..yes.
regards Wendy Deacon
Thank you Wendy,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From: Wendy Deacon
Sent: Saturday, 13 July 2013 10:18 AM
Subject: Comments (Ingram, Henry)
Comments (Ingram, Henry): Hi Ian, filling in a couple of blanks for you.
Henry Ingram b:18 4 1845 "Maharatta" Bombala. bap.:30 4 1848 Christ Church,
Maneroo/Monaro.d:17 12 1912. bur.18 12 1912.
Sophia Ingram nee Elton:b:1 8 1846 Bombala. bap.:2 5 1847 Christ Church, Maneroo. d:3 5 1916 RPA Hosp. Sydney. bur:5 5 1916 c/e Bombala. These facts are from Sheila Barber many years ago, an early Monaro researcher.Still looking may be more.
yours Wendy Deacon
Thank you Wendy,
Regards, Ian
BREEN
From:
Michael / Maureen Jennings
Sent: Friday, 12 July 2013 7:04 PM
Subject: MICHAEL JOSEPH BREEN ID I442 AND MICHAEL JOSEPH BREEN ID
I315902
G'day Ian
1. Further to our recent email exchange.
2. Attached are scanned electronic copies of NSWBDM birth, marriage and death certificates for Michael Joseph Breen. The certificates certainly connect this Breen to:
(a) Birth 1861 in Moruya NSW. Parents Mary Byrnes born Ireland and Daniel Breen born Ireland and occupation shoemaker/bootmaker;
(b) Marriage 1890 in Bega NSW to Emma Jess. Birth place/s and parent/s details are not shown. Michael's occupation is bootmaker (probably following in his father's footsteps/trade) and residence in Bega. Emma's usual place of residence is Towamba (NSW);
(c) Death 1930 at South Kensington, Randwick NSW. Birth in Moruya. Age at marriage 28 years which is approximate to 1861 birth. Occupation bootmaker. Marriage in Bega to Emma Jess. Parents Daniel Breen occupation bootmaker and Mary Burns (perhaps this is an anglicised spelling or the Byrnes spelling is lost to the mists of time). The names of children listed on the certificate are consistent with those under the ID 1442 database reference; and
(d) Burial 1930 at Roman Catholic Cemetery, Botany NSW. According to the website of the Eastern Suburbs Memorial Park, Michael Joseph Breen is buried at "RCBD Roman Catholic FMBD Grave 358 Internment Date 15 September 1930 and age 69 years" which is consistent with 1861 birth.
3. There are a number of Breen/s buried in the Roman Catholic cemetery at Botany, including Michael Joseph Breen's wife Emma (Jess) and also some of their children. Co-incidentally, my grandparents Jennings-McKee are also buried at the cemetery.
4. It is disappointing (to me) that the Breen-Jess 1890 marriage certificate does not show parent/s details. Also the hand writing across the record seems to be the same. This is not entirely unexpected - I have found similar outcomes on a number of other marriage certificates I have obtained from the NSWBDM for the periods 1870s to 1890s. Specifically, I found exactly the same no show of parents details on the 1887 marriage certificate of my great grandparents Joseph McKee and Mary Ann Breen (Kiss) of Nimmitabel/Towamba.
5. I suspect that this is a reflection of returns from church marriage registers by clergy to the NSWBDM Central Registry under the Clergy Returns Transfer Act covering church records to the NSWBDM Central Registry. Some Central Registry marriage records from the 1800s recorded only the details pertaining to the parties to the marriage with details of the parents left blank or unknown although they appeared in the Church registers. The Central Registry task of reconciling the early Church records and amending marriage registrations was never finalised and the Central Registry's records from these years are not complete.
6. A witness at the 1890 marriage is a Daniel Breen, but no indication of relationship to the marriage parties.
7. I would like to try and nail down parents details for the Breen-Jess 1890 marriage record. Do you have any information/pointers/contacts about where the RC Parish Marriage Registers for 1861 for Moruya might be held? I have in mind searching the parish records (if they are still available).
8. The 1861 birth certificate indicates (at least to me) there are two other children (one male and one female) from the Daniel Breen and Mary Byrnes/Burns marriage/relationship. These other children might be might be (??Daniel??) Breen junior and Mary Ann Breen (Kiss-McKee). I have not been able, at least at this stage, to cleanly track other children's birth records in the NSWBDM Historical Index.
9. As to Mary Ann Breen (Kiss-McKee) (ID I589 in your database), her 1920 death record shows her parents as Daniel Breen occupation shoemaker and Mary Byrnes.
10. I am chasing down a few avenues on the parents to Michael Joseph and Mary Ann.
Cheers, Michael Jennings
Hi Michael,
Thank you for the certificate copies.
I suggest you direct your questions about the local Parish Registers to the Bega Valley Historical Society.
http://thebegavalley.org.au/bvgenealogy.0.html
Regards, Ian
ALLEN
From: Kellie
Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2013 8:06 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Allen, Benjamin (I37024)
Proposed Change: Allen, Benjamin (I37024)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I37024&tree=MP
Description: V18194966 1B/1819 ALLEN BENJAMIN JOSIAH ANN
V1819148 8/1819 ALLEN BENJAMIN JOSIAH ANN
Name Benjamin Allen
Gender Male
Christening Date 26 Dec 1819
Christening Place ST. PHILIP, SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA
Birth Date 25 Feb 1819
Father: Josiah
Mother: Ann
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
WAITE
From: Kellie
Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2013 7:52 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Waite, Ann Jane (I37023)
Proposed Change: Waite, Ann Jane (I37023)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I37023&tree=MP
Description: On 25th January 1861, at Kirkanong, Maneroo, Ann, the beloved
wife of Mr. Benjamin Allen, and fifth daughter of Mr. John
Waite, late of Browley, Sutton Forest, aged thirty-six years, after a long illness of nearly three years.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
ALLEN
From: Kellie
Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2013 7:50 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Allen, Benjamin (I37024)
Proposed Change: Allen, Benjamin (I37024)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I37024&tree=MP
Description: SMH 7 Feb 1843
MARRIAGE.
Yesterday, at St. Phillip's Church, by the Rev. B. L. Watson, Mr. Benjamin Allen, of Maneroo, to Ann, second daughter of John Waite, of Broulee, Sutton Forest.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BLACK
From: Kellie
Sent: Wednesday, 10 July 2013 2:58 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Black, Annie Collins (I131361)
Proposed Change: Black, Annie Collins (I131361)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I131361&tree=MP
Description: WEATHERHEAD -Mav 31 at her residence, Narroon, Bega. Annie Collins aged 77 years, relict of the late William Weatherhead and mother of William B. and Edgar S Weatherhead. Bernice (deceased), Mrs. J T. Rodgers, Mrs. G. Everingham, Mrs. R. B. Bush, and Mrs. Ernest Wynne.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
LOVE /STOPP
From:
patronwhi
Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: LOVE /STOPP
Thank you for answering my email.The reason I contacted you was to find out if anyone was researching the Love / Stopp Families of Cooma and a contact number for them.I have checked the Monaro site but could not find anyone.
Thanks again
Regards Patricia
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Harvey
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: RE: LOVE /STOPP
I am not sure exactly what you're looking for but I can tell you we do not have a bulletin board facility or anything similar. What we offer is what you see on our website including the most extensive database of families who resided in the Eden/Monaro district and surrounds.
Regards,
Ian
From:
patronwhi
Sent: Monday, 8 July 2013 4:10 PM
Subject: LOVE /STOPP
I am helping a friend with her Family History and I am have difficulties finding a Members Interest list for the Manaro / Cooma area could you please help.
Thanking you
Patricia
INGRAM
From: Patricia McGufficke
Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 8:46 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Mary Jane (I69018)
Proposed Change: Ingram, Mary Jane (I69018)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I69018&tree=MP
Description: Christened 30 Apr 1873 St Matthias' CofE, Bombala, died 1 Dec 1947, married 9 Feb 1898 St. Matthias.
REILLY, Mary Jane. - December 1, 1947 at her daughter's residence 66 Terry St., Tempe, beloved mother of Thelma (Mrs Kelly), Eileen (Mrs Thompson), Mona (Mrs L Fahy), and Aubrey, aged 75 years. (SMH 2 Dec 1947 p22)
REILLY - The Relatives and Friends of Mr and Mrs Kelly, Mr and Mrs Thompson, Mr and Mrs L Fahy, Mr and Mrs A Reilly are invited to attend the Funeral of their dearly loved Mother and Mother-in-law MARY JANE, to leave St Peter and Paul Church, Tempe, This Morning, at 9.45 a.m. for the Catholic Cemetery, Rookwood.
Buried Mortuary 2 Area 15, Grave 241
Patricia McGufficke
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From:
Blyton, Ian and Rae
Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: Wallace Henry Ingram b1914 Bombala.
Hi Ian
Havent had any luck with your request, maybe through the website some other Ingram families may know.
The death date for John Edwin Ingram is as you have on the website, another cousin verified the date. I am not sure where I got the other date
Cheers, Rae
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
From: Ian Harvey
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: Wallace Henry Ingram b1914 Bombala.
Hi Rae,
My apologies for bothering you but I thought perhaps you might be able to resolve a problem for me. Wallace Henry Ingram born July 15, 1914 in Bombala, were his parents Charles Ingram and Ada Isabella Scott or John Charles Ingram and Annie Heathfield Elliott?
Regards,
Ian
COOK
From: Kellie
Sent: Monday, 8 July 2013 11:55 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Cook, Alexander Currie (I71400)
Proposed Change: Cook, Alexander Currie (I71400)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I71400&tree=MP
Description: SMH 2 Oct 1838
By special license, on Thursday, the 26th ult., by the Rev. John M'Garvie.
A. M., Alexander Currie Cook, Esq., Surgeon, to Anna Maria Rainy, second daughter of Mr. George Rainy, George-street.
SMH 28 Feb 1852
DIED,
At Whampoa China, on the 11th August, on board the ship Statesman, Alexander Currie Cook, Esq., surgeon, aged forty years, after an illness of fourteen hours.
Place of birth: Laigh Kilmory, County of Bute, Scotland "Minerva" from Greenock arr. Sydney 1838 "Minerva" was a fever ship and was quarantined at Sydney on arrival. Dr. Cook's wife, father, mother and sister all died on the vessel (Sydney Gazette)
Alexanders first wife was Jane Campbell also from Bute, Scotland.
Will find more about parents etc.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
COOK
From:
Will Daehler
Sent: Tuesday, 9 July 2013 12:29 AM
Subject: RE: Proposed Change: Cook, Thomas Barber (I201374)
Hello Ian and David,
Thank you for your quick response.
I can’t help you solve the mystery of who George Mitchell Cook could have possibly been. Both his parents ( and my great grandparents) listed in that screen capture you sent me were of course long dead years before this character was supposedly born in 1937.
There is a possibility that someone entering information into the computer database made some sort of mistake. George Mitchell Cook b. 1937 possibly never existed, and George Frederick Cook is missing from this database. Coincidence?
Attached is the picture of Annie Hinchcliffe, 1904.
I also attached the Cook epistle that was sent to me from Connie Stevens, in about 2004. For your information, my mother was Moya Cook, on page 7. “Children of George Frederick Cook and Dolly O’Halloran”.
William Daehler
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
From:
Ian Harvey
Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: RE: Proposed Change: Cook, Thomas Barber (I201374)
Hi Will,
Thank you for the information. Yes we are very interested in any additional information and images you can contribute.
Do you know anything about this person.....
Regards,
Ian
-----Original
Message-----
From: Will Daehler
Sent: Monday, 8 July 2013 1:17 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Cook, Thomas Barber (I201374)
Proposed Change: Cook, Thomas Barber (I201374)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I201374&tree=MP
Description: There is a serious omission in the descendants of Thomas Barber Cook and Annie Hinchcliffe.
After Thomas W. Cook was born, and BEFORE Alice Eliza Cook, my grandfather George Frederick Cook was born.
The information I have is from the Register General Index, and is entry # 10613.
George Frederick was born in 8 Oct, 1879. He died in 1959 and is buried in Collector, NSW.
Would you be interested in fixing this error, and then also appending the other genealogical information I have to this wonderful database?
For you info, I also have a portrait of Annie Hinchcliffe takenin about 1904 that other descendants might be interested in.
Sincerely, Will Daehler
BAILEY
From: Kellie
Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 8:49 PM
Subject: John BAILEY
In regards to
BAILEY
From: John and Jan Elder
I have managed to confirm the birth of another child in the family of John and Elizabeth Bailey and would be pleased if you could add it to the
information already held on this family.
First child - John Bailey Born 24rd December l845, Queanbeyan NSW - Baptised 2nd January 1846 Parents John and Elizabeth (Green) BAILEY - V1845
2082 31A/l845
***************
NSW BDM
V18452082 31A/1845 BAILEY JOHN JOHN ELIZABETH (SMITH)
a.. Christening Date02 Jan 1846
b.. Christening PlaceQUEANBEYAN, NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA
c.. Birth Date23 Dec 1845
John and Elizabeth also had another John in 1849 and she is still listed as SMITH
V18491124 26A/1849 BAILEY JOHN JOHN ELIZABETH (SMITH)
MP site has that 1849 John was born 1850 but he could NOT have been born
1850 if he was baptised 1849...
and why is mother listed as SMITH if she was born a GREEN???
There are a few John and Elizabeth BAILEY having kids in that time frame..
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
WROE
From: Kellie
Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 7:56 PM
Subject: William Thomas WROE
In regards to
WROE
From: R & C Wroe
Still researching William Thomas Wroe without much luck (when I get a chance), I did find his marriage details & I think that he may of been discharged from the Army?
Court Martial
[WROE William Thomas : Service Number - NX134490 : Unit - 3rd Australian Reinforcement Training Battalion (Jungle Warefare), Australian Military Forces : Date of Court Martial - 9 February 1945]
NOK for William are 1) H WROE and 2) Beryl WROE
marriage
16912/1942 WROE WILLIAM THOMAS HADSON BERYL JEAN REDFERN
On rolls William is listed as a fireman...by 1963 seems to leave his wife and move throughout QLD and NT and ends up with a new ?wife? Betty May.
he dies in NT but his age is out by a few years
a.. First Name:William Thomas b.. Last Name:Wroe c.. Gender:Male d..
Approximate Age At Death:74 years e.. Death Date:1995-10-23 f.. Place Of Death:Darwin Private Hospital NT g.. Burial Date:1995-10-26 h.. Cemetery and/or Memorial Service:Thorak Regional Crematorium Darwin NT Could be a typo/transcription error or just he lied...
Going on his first enlistment naming H WROE as NOK (which would probably be hs father due to NOK rules.
I'd say this is his parents marriage
7089/1916 WROE HUBERT W RICHMOND ISABELL M COOMA
It's the only marriage for a H WROE within 10years previous to his birth.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
AUSTIN
From: Kellie
Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 4:32 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Austin, George (I96892)
Proposed Change: Austin, George (I96892)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I96892&tree=MP
Description: Name: George Austin
Birth Date: 1817
Father's Name: Thomas Austin
Mother's Name: Esther Murphy
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1817
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Volume Number: V1817538 6
Birth Date 23 Sep 1817
Birthplace ST. PHILIP, SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA
Christening Date 04 Nov 1817
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
CLARKE
From: Patricia McGufficke
Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 4:22 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Clarke, William Henry (I43842)
Proposed Change: Clarke, William Henry (I43842)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I43842&tree=MP
Description: Date of death for William Henry Clarke may not be correct.
He and Anastacia Coral Ingram married at Randwick and lived at Sylvania (electoral rolls confirm this). The birth of William H Clark (no E) is registered twice in 1891 as William H Clark(no E) and as Coulsell-Clark, born to William H C and Ellen at Randwick.
There is a death registered 1963 at Sutherland for William Henry Clarke (parents William/Helen)and the following notice in the Ryerson Index:
CLARKE William Henry Death notice 01SEP1963 Death late of Sylvania Sydney Morning Herald
Someone may be able to confirm one or the other.
Patricia McGufficke
Hi Patricia,
I think you're correct. Looking at the Woronora Cemetery site, William Henry (d1963) and Anastasia Coral are interred in the same location. I now believe that the William Henry Clarke b1892 to William and Rebecca nee Reed was not married to Anastasia Coral Ingram. Thus the additional William Henry Clark(e) has been added to our records.
Regards, Ian
CLEAR
From: Patricia McGufficke
Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 3:23 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Clear, William (I8223)
Proposed Change: Clear, William (I8223)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I8223&tree=MP
Description: Born 1828 Kilkenny, Ireland, died 12 Aug 1918 Delegate, NSW.
He married Sarah McNamara on 2 Oct 1859 in Sandhurst, Victoria. She born
1834 Ireland, died 1874 Tombong, NSW, arrived Victoria in 1854.
According to his Obituary in the Freeman's Journal, 19 Sep 1918, he came to Australia with his brother in 1843 from Capetown, where they had carried on a bakery business for about ten years. After coming to Australia, he settled in Bombala where his late wife, who predeceased him fifty years, died, he being left with a family of young children, the youngest only three months. He kept his family together until they were all grown up. The late Mr Clear was a very fervent Catholic, and for many years served on the altar, and always took a prominent part in any Catholic function. He leaves a family of two sons and four daughters - viz., Sister Louise, of the Mercy Sisters, Pymble, Mrs. J. Morrison, of Glenroy; Mrs W. Berkery, Bombala; and Mrs J Ingram, Tellicura (Vic.); Mr William Clear, junr., Tombong; and Mr E Clear of Delegate with whom he had resided for a number of years, and whose wife nursed hin untiringly till the end. The deceased also leaves a number of grandchildren and great-grandchildren. The interment took place in the cemetery, Bombala, the Rev. Father Roche officiating at the gravewide. Father Roche also administered the last rites of the Church to Mr Clear on his deathbed.
Patricia McGufficke
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
HUGHES
From: Kellie
Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 12:51 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Hughes, Florence Annie (I185296)
Proposed Change: Hughes, Florence Annie (I185296)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I185296&tree=MP
Description: SMH 11 NOV 1922
"The careless manner in which some persons juggle with the marriage laws was exemplified in the Divorce Court to-day, when George Henry Marden, of Newtown, told Mr. Acting Justice Ralston that his wife, whom he had not seen for several years, had called upon him with information that she had married another man.
Marden said in November, 1900, he was married to Florence Annie Hughes, then under age, and in 1903 he took his wife with him to Dnbbo.
At the end of six months he returned to Sydney, but his wife refused to leave 'Dubbo.
Later on he heard that she was carrying on with some other man there.
About six months ago,' said Marden, 'my wife called ay my home in Newtown.
and said she wished to confess that she had married again.
It gave me a shock.'
Marden was granted a decree nisi.
Marriage
9287/1900 MARDEN GEORGE H HUGHES FLORENCE A NEWTOWN
(not 1902)
Divorce noting William D B INGRAM as being 'the other man'
1922 MARDEN George Henry MARDEN Florence Annie (co-respondant)
INGRAM William David Bustard
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From: Kellie
Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2013 12:37 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Ethel Winifred (I279846)
Proposed Change: Ingram, Ethel Winifred (I279846)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I279846&tree=MP
Description: Name: Ethel Winifred Ingram
Age: 15
Birth Date: 22 Jul 1909
Father: Alfred J Ingram
Mother: Dorothy Ingram
Admission or Discharge Date: 12 Sep 1924
Location: Parramatta
School: Biloela or Parramatta Training School
Record Type: Court Ordered Admissions, 1867-1923
Name: Ethel Ingram
Birth Year: abt 1910
Age: 14
Event Place: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Event Type: Missing Person
Publication Date: 16 Apr 1924
Page #: 209
Alfred seems to have remarried or shacked up with a Dorothy after his wifes death..
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
O'CONNOR
From: Kellie
Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 9:29 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: O'Connor, Mavis Agnes (I5274)
Proposed Change: O'Connor, Mavis Agnes (I5274)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I5274&tree=MP
Description: Well this might need some ideas!!
From 1937 to 1954 Mavis lives with Andrew in Orbust VIC.
1958 she is back in Bombala area at William Street Delegate.
1959 marriage
27840/1959 MEAD ALFRED ERNEST INGRAM MAVIS AGNES DELEGATE
By 1963 her and new husband are back in Orbust VIC until 1977.
In 1980 she is back in William Street, Delegate no sign of her husband. (who by burial records appears to have died in 1984)
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From: Kellie
Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 5:17 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Victor Joseph (I71956)
Proposed Change: Ingram, Victor Joseph (I71956)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I71956&tree=MP
Description: INGRAM Victor Joseph Funeral notice 15NOV2006
Funeral late of 'Manumber', Bonang Herald Sun (Melbourne)
13NOV2006
INGRAM Victor Joseph (Wit) Death notice 10NOV2006 Death 90
at Delegate Hospital Bombala Times 22NOV2006
INGRAM Victor Joseph (Wit) Death notice 10NOV2006 Death 90
at Delegate Hospital Herald Sun (Melbourne) 14NOV2006
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From: Kellie
Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 2:39 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Francis John (I87835)
Proposed Change: Ingram, Francis John (I87835)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I87835&tree=MP
Description: SMH 17 Jun 1959
"...June 15 1959, at "Lochabar" Tombong Delegate, beloved husband of Kathleen and darling daddy of Frances Patricia and dearly beloved son, brother and uncle of the R F Ingram family. In God's tender care.."
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From: Kellie
Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 2:04 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Charles Albert Hope (I8207)
Proposed Change: Ingram, Charles Albert Hope (I8207)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I8207&tree=MP
Description: SMH 28 Dec 1972
"....at his residence St Mary's, late of Bombala, dearly loved husband of Sarah, loved father of Margaret (Mrs Peggy UPTON) and June (Mrs BRIGGS)."
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
RICHTER
From: Kellie
Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 11:13 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Richter, Florence Sophia (I128856)
Proposed Change: Richter, Florence Sophia (I128856)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I128856&tree=MP
Description: Florence died in Canberra and her death is registered with ACT BDM 20006308 INGRAM FLORENCE SOPHIA 16/03/1969
Death Notice Canberra Times 17 Mar 1969
INGRAM. — Florence Sophia, March 16th 1969.
at Canberra, late of "Hill View", Bombala, widow of the late Charles Campbell Ingram, loved mother of George and Freda, Dudley and Rodney, aged
84 years, At rest.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
KEOGH
From: Kellie
Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 10:56 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Keogh, Marilyn (I264279)
Proposed Change: Keogh, Marilyn (I264279)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I264279&tree=MP
Description: Engagement Notice gives parents name.
Canberra Times 8 Jan 1971
INGRAM - KEOGH.— The engagement is announced of Maralyn Keogh, the only daughter of the late Mr William Keogh of Young, and Mrs Elaine Kleem of Canberra to Mr Barry James Ingram, only son of Mr and Mrs A. C. Ingram of Nimmitabel.
Mothers remarriage??
17240/1962 KLEEM KEVIN JOHN KEOGH ELAINE BARBARA SYDNEY
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From: Kellie
Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 10:30 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Edwin (I87771)
Proposed Change: Ingram, Edwin (I87771)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I87771&tree=MP
Description: From Elect Rolls Edwin was hotelkeeper at Railway Hotel Cooma in 1930 while son Eric Raymond was a barman there.
Sarah's address was given as Bradley Street Cooma, occupation draper.
1936-1954 rolls have Edwin and sons Eric Raymond and Clement James all as labourers at Tubbut Dellicknora.
By 1963 to 1968 only Edwin and Clement are still there.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From: Kellie
Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 10:19 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Edwin (I87771)
Proposed Change: Ingram, Edwin (I87771)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I87771&tree=MP
Description: Although the mothers first name on death reg is incorrect I really think this is Edwin's birth
7526/1872 INGRAM EDWARD JOHN MARY SUSAN BOMBALA
John married Mary Susan DOUCH 1856 Bombala.
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Edwin Ingram
Name: Edwin Ingram
Death Place: Bairnsdale, Victoria
Age: 99
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Jane Douch
Registration Year: 1972
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 23587
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
MELBOURNE, Sunday. 10th Sep 1972
- Mr Edwin Ingram, 100 years old today, sat in his wheelchair and sipped champagne. At celebrations to mark his birthday at the Gippsland Home and Hospital, Victoria.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BAKER
From: Kellie
Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2013 9:59 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Baker, Agnes Mary (I5429)
Proposed Change: Baker, Agnes Mary (I5429)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I5429&tree=MP
Description: OK this gets confusing and may need more research
Death notice 19 Dec 1988
MARTIN, Agnes Mary
(Ingram). — On 17.12.88. At
Qbn. Loved mother and mother-in-law of Maxwell(dec), Zelma, Rex and Margaret, Ken and Robyn.
Grandmother and great grandmother of their children.
Maybe Agnes was shacked up with a MARTIN after Nevilles death??
She is buried as INGRAM
Deceased Last Name Ingram
Deceased First Name Agnes Mary
Cemetery Area
Lawn Plaque Section (Concrete Headstone Area)
Section
Section H
Row
Row A
Lot
32
Date of Death 17/12/1988
Funeral Director
M.H O'Rourke
Depth
Single Depth
Number of Internments
Single Burial
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From: Kellie
Sent: Friday, 5 July 2013 2:58 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Isabel May (I71993)
Proposed Change: Ingram, Isabel May (I71993)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I71993&tree=MP
Description: You know her birth and death so where are her parents names??
Death
Name: Isabel May Ingram
Death Place: Orbost, Victoria
Age: 53
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Ada Isabella Scott
Registration Year: 1962
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 22459
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From: Kellie
Sent: Friday, 5 July 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: INGRAM again..lol
OK,
Going back to the James Charles INGRAM born 1911 Bombala to Charles and Ada.
I ran a search for all Charles INGRAM born Bombala area and died in VIC..
Birth
8805/1877 INGRAM CHARLES THOMAS ELIZABETH BOMBALA
parents marriage
1872/1870 INGRAM THOMAS COMBEN ELIZABETH BOMBALA
Death of Charles
Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 about Chas Ingram
Name: Chas Ingram
Death Place: East Brunswick, Victoria
Age: 75
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizth E B Mick Camben
Registration Year: 1953
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration number: 1154
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Notice mothers surnames??
I am sure this is the Charles who married Ada SCOTT, had son James and moved to VIC.
I'll try and find more in newspapers etc.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BAKER
From: Kellie
Sent: Friday, 5 July 2013 2:20 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Baker, James William (I649)
Proposed Change: Baker, James William (I649)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I649&tree=MP
Description: A daughter Lyn is missing from list of children
Canberra Times 11 Dec 1970
BAKER, James William. —Dec 10, at Canberra, late of 13 McKeahnie St, Queanbeyan, the beloved husband of Rae (deceased), loved father and father-in-law of Mary and Neville Ingram, Emily and Lyn Baker, Alex, Pearl and Jack Cotterill, loved grandfather and great grandfather of their children. In his 90th year. Rest in peace.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
BAKER
From: Kellie
Sent: Friday, 5 July 2013 2:13 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Baker, Agnes Mary (I5429)
Proposed Change: Baker, Agnes Mary (I5429)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I5429&tree=MP
Description: Date of Death 17/12/1988
Buried in Queanbeyan Lawn cemetery
Cemetery Area
Lawn Plaque Section (Concrete Headstone Area)
Section
Section H
Row
Row A
Lot
32
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
KIMBER
From: Kellie
Sent: Friday, 5 July 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: George KIMBER
In regards to
KIMBER
From: Patricia McGufficke
Sent: Saturday, 29 June 2013 2:49 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Family: Kimber, George/O'Connor, Eliza (F34967)
The George KIMBER (also noted as KEMBER) who arrived 1857 on Zemindar listed his parents as John and Mary KIMBER from Kent England and listed his native
place as Westerham(??) Kent.
The birth/baptism for George KIMBER
a.. Christening Date20 May 1832
b.. Christening PlaceWEST HOATHLY,SUSSEX,ENGLAND BUT also has parents John and Mary.
I cannot find another George KIMBER baptised 1832 West Hoathly.
I see NSW BDM death has parents George and Eliza,,,,but this man isn't the one who arrived 1857 or baptised 1832. (unless the parents names are incorrect on his death reg)
Kellie
Hi Kellie,
What! An error in the BDM Index, heaven forbid but all too frequent unfortunately, particularly when the father's name is the same and his mother's name the same as his wife. I have now seen the immigration records and I agree with you so I will amend our records.
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From: Kellie
Sent: Friday, 5 July 2013 12:20 PM
Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Vincent Langhorn (I169232)
Proposed Change: Ingram, Vincent Langhorn (I169232)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I169232&tree=MP
Description: Canberra Times 24 Nov 1969
INGRAM, Vincent Langhorn. — November 22 at Canberra, late of 61 Padbury Street, Downer, and formerly of Bombala, dearly beloved husband of Sarah, loved father of Maxwell, Delma (Mrs Watters), Patricia (Mrs Crawford),Roselyn (Mrs Hite), Terence, Anthony and Janette (Bartley). Aged
54 years.
Requiescat in Pace.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From: Kellie
Sent: Friday, 5 July 2013 11:49 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Maxwell (I87887)
Proposed Change: Ingram, Maxwell (I87887)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I87887&tree=MP
Description: Incorrect Maxwell.
Death Notice Canberra Times 15 May 1970
INGRAM, Maxwell. — May 14th, at Canberra, late of
13 McKeahnie St, Queanbeyan. Dearly beloved husband of Pam, loved father of Wendy and Jane, dearly beloved son of Neville and Mary, loved brother of Rex and Thelma (Mrs P. Morton) and Ken. Aged 39 years. At rest.
So this Maxwell was born abt 1931 and parents Neville and Mary plus wife Pam.
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
INGRAM
From: Kellie
Sent: Friday, 5 July 2013 9:52 AM
Subject: Proposed Change: Ingram, Neville Archibald (I65501)
Proposed Change: Ingram, Neville Archibald (I65501)
Tree: Eden Monaro Pioneers
Link: http://monaropioneers.com/TNG/getperson.php?personID=I65501&tree=MP
Description: Neville died in ACT 17 Jan 1971.
From 1933 to 1968 on Elect Rolls he is listed as Neville Archie and his death is also registered as Neville Archie.
Canberra Times 18 Jan 1971
INGRAM, Neville. — January 17. Late of Fairbairn Ave, Pialligo. Beloved husband of Mary, loved father of Max (deceased), Zelma (Mrs P. Morton), Rex and Ken.
FUNERALS
INGRAM. — The relatives and friends of the late Neville Ingram of Fairbairn Ave, Pialligo, are respectfully informed that his funeral will leave Christ Church, Queanbeyan, after service to commence at 10am tomorrow, Tuesday, for interment in the Tharwa Road Lawn Cemetery.
M. H. O'ROURKE FUNERALS
Kellie
Thanks,
Regards, Ian
|
Monaro
Pioneers