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The following files have been compiled from the
new Monaro Pioneers database. Some of these files may contain additional
research undertaken by Ian Harvey.
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Roger
Sheehy - Replacement file - with some
additional information supplied by Joan Jerzyna
[fhjoan-at bigpond.com].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/sheehy_Roger.htm
Thomas Power - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/power-t.htm
William Russell - Replacement file
- http://www.monaropioneers.com/russell-w.htm
Matthew O'Neill - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/oneill-m.htm
James Sorrell - Replacement file - with
some additional information supplied by Lyn De Klerk
[Lyn.DeKlerk-at-act.gov.au].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Sorrell-James.htm
Thomas
Greer - Replacement file - with some additional
information supplied by
Lyn De Klerk [Lyn.DeKlerk-at-act.gov.au].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/greer_thomas.htm
George Thomas Morrison - with some additional information
supplied by Janette
Simpson [bill.kent-at-bigpond.com].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Morrison-GeorgeT.htm
Isabella Inglis - with some additional information
supplied by Janette
Simpson [bill.kent-at-bigpond.com].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Inglis-Isabella.htm
Charles Ralphs - Replacement file - with some
additional information supplied by Shirley Barrette
[sbarrette-at-optusnet.com.au].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/ralphs-c.htm
William Britten - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/britten-w.htm
Joseph Blaxter - New file - from information
received from Colin Blaxter and
Barbara
Adams,
<dad95624-at-bigpond.net.au>.
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Blaxter-Joseph.htm
Thomas
Akers - Replacement file - with some additional
information supplied by Cathy Nagy
[c_nagy-at-optusnet.com.au].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/akers-t.htm
William
Blyton - Replacement file - with some additional
information supplied by Cathy Nagy
[c_nagy-at-optusnet.com.au].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/blytonw.htm
Lewis
Shannon - Replacement file - with some additional
information supplied by Pam Grover [pdgrover-at-ozemail.com.au].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/shannons.htm
Edward Berkery - New file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Berkery-Edward.htm
Johann Carl Spindler - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Spindler-yc.htm
Richard Johnston - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Johnston-r.htm
Johann Pruss - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Pruss-j.htm
James Mealing - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Mealing-James.htm
Alexander Kilgour - New file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Kilgour-Alexander.htm
John Caldwell - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/caldwell-j.htm
William James Cochrane - New file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Cochrane-WilliamJ.htm
John Oldfield Constable - New file - with
additional information supplied by Catherine Constable
[rcconstable-at-bigpond.com].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Constable-JohnO.htm
Patrick
Whelan - Replacement file - with some additional
information supplied by Ric Dunn
[dunnrite-at-actrix.co.nz].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/whelan_Patrick.htm
Daniel
Ryan - Replacement file - with some additional
information supplied by Ric Dunn
[dunnrite-at-actrix.co.nz].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/ryan-d.htm John James Grealy
- Replacement file - with some additional information
supplied by Ric Dunn [dunnrite-at-actrix.co.nz].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Grealy_JohnJ.htm
Henry Agnew - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/agnewh.htm
Joseph Hyde - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/hyde-j.htm
Thomas Geraghty - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/geraghty_Thomas.htm
John George Jess - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Jess-JohnG.htm
Patrick Pendergast - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/pendergast-p.htm
Daniel Gowing - Replacement file - with
some additional information supplied by Ben Kelly
[ben_kelly21-at-hotmail.com].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/gowing_daniel.htm
James Kiss - Replacement file - With some
additional information supplied by Karen Kiss
[kkiss-at-iinet.net.au].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/kiss-j.htm
Henry James Kirkland - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Kirkland-HenryJ.htm
Morgan Joseph Thornton - Replacement file
- http://www.monaropioneers.com/thorntonm.htm
Thomas Tracey - Replacement file -
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Tracey_Thomas.htm
Robert Alexander - Replacement file
- http://www.monaropioneers.com/alexander_robert.htm
John Power - Replacement file - with
additional information and stories supplied by
Bryan Power
[bryanp-at-ssc.net.au].
http://www.monaropioneers.com/power-john.htm
Michael Power - Replacement file - with
additional information and stories supplied by
Bryan Power
[bryanp-at-ssc.net.au]. |
Announcements:
Love Family Reunion, important
information
Hi
Would you be good enough to include in your next Newsletter –
The Love Family Reunion which was scheduled to take place in Rockhampton in
August 2010 has been rescheduled to 30 April 2011.
More information later.
Thanks
Lyle Cooper
Brown Mountain plaque
I have photographed the plaque in situ & will
forward it separately. Please unzip the attached zip file to view these
photos.
Gordon Family Reunion
WHEN: October Long Weekend 2010 Saturday 2nd and Sunday 3rd
October
2010-03-01
WHERE: SCHVC Club Rooms Greigs Flat Pambula NSW Saturday,
Oaklands Pambula Sunday.
CONTACTS : Ros Odell rodell@netspeed.com.au
Alexis (Lexi) Furner iafurner@bigpond.com
Current
correspondence:
Subject: Quinn and Ivill Families
From: "Louise Lowe"
Date: Thu, March 4, 2010 2:01
pm
Good afternoon
Firstly, could you please add me to your Newsletter Mailing
List as I have recently started researching a branch of my son-in-law's tree
that relate
back to the Monaro District and I have found your site to be
of great interest.
Secondly, in your Pioneers Database there is mention of
Edward IVILL and his descendants. One of the children of Edward IVILL and
Catherine BRADSHAW is listed as Charles William REED. This Charles married
Julia QUINN (daughter of John Laurence QUINN and Ann Cole MOSS).
Would you have any further information or documentation as to
why Charles REED is listed as a child of the IVILL's.
I have attempted to contact the people listed has having
submitted their research for this family but to no avail.
Thank you for your time and have a great day, Louise
Lowe
Hi
Louise,
Perhaps one of our newsletter
readers will be able to provide you with more information. But I would
suggest that Charles William Ivill was raised by a family called Reed after his
parents were drowned and took the surname Reed instead of Ivill, Certainly
all his descendants are called Reed.
Do you have proof that Julia
Quinn is the daughter of John Laurence Quinn and Ann Moss? Julia's burial
records show she was 76yo at the time of her death in 1903 which puts her dob at
1827. According to the information we have John Lawrence Quinn married Ann
Matilda Cole Moss in 1848 in NZ and had 16 children not including a
Julia.
Regards,
Ian
From: Archives
Sent: Friday, 5 March 2010 4:33
AM
Subject: Keon
Dear Ian,
Blackrock College is currently celebrating our
sesquicentenary, having been founded in 1860. We are trying to find relatives,
descendants or family generally of our very first students here. It would be
wonderful for them to be represented at Foundation Day here next
September.
Ferdinand Keon and his brother O'Brien Keon, orphans, were
both among our first students, coming here in the autumn of 1860. We have very
little information about them except a note on his record saying that
Ferdinand died, place unspecified, aged 37 so, knowing he was 12 in 1860,
this might have been around 1908. We know their grandfather, name unspecified,
was in Co Meath.
O'Brien Keon was living in Dublin in 1901 and we have his
address at that time.
There seems to be a branch of this Keon family
in Australia and the name Ferdinand Keon is relatively unusual. Perhaps
your Keon contributor would contact us and maybe we will be able to work out the
relationship with our two past students.
Yours sincerely,
Caroline Mullan
Archivist
Blackrock College
Blackrock
Co Dublin
Ireland
Hello
Caroline,
There is no specific contact
for the Keon family, I am the person who added that material to our records as
the family were related to the Toms family. I have attached a report of
what we know already for your use.
I believe that Margaret Keon
nee Plunkett probably came to Australia to join her brother John Hubert
Plunkett, who was appointed Solicitor General of the Colony of New South
Wales. I also believe that Margaret was the wife of Ferdinand Keon who was
already dead at the time (but I have no proof of
this).
Therefore my best guess is
the two boys to whom you refer were probably the sons of Ferdinand and Margaret
left behind in Ireland for their education but again this is purely speculation
on my part.
I hope this helps you and of
course if you discover any further information that might assist us, we would be
very grateful to receive same.
Regards,
Ian
Harvey
Monaro Pioneers
Project
Sydney, NSW,
Australia
From: irene mason
Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2010 11:35
AM
Subject: FW: Edward Carroll ancestry/James Carroll
line
Hello Ian,
I had forwarded this to Carole, but it
bounced.
Will try you, this time round.
Regards, Irene Mason
(nee Carroll - Maria Williams/William Gait line - their daughter Mary Gait
married James Carroll, my grandparents).
Hi
Irene,
Alas, all to often folks
change their email addresses and do not let us know. In the case of Edward
Carroll, I was the original contributor although I have no direct connection
with that family.
All the information we
currently have is already shown on our site. Whilst I don't have any
images of Edward Carroll's grave, I do have a photo of Hannah's (Johanna)
and it it is self explanatory (see the Edward Carroll page on the MP
website). The dob will always remain questionable I believe.
One thing is certain, they were very fast and loose with the truth in those
days.
As to your other questions, I
don't have an answer unfortunately. I have added some of your information to our
database.
This email will appear in our
next newsletter and that may generate some responses for
you.
Regards,
Ian
Hello Ian,
Thank you for your quick reply. I'm
amazed that you research a family so thoroughly, esp. one with which you have no
connection.
The Monaro information fired me to investigate Edward
and Johanna further. Accessed the Old Bailey files for Joanna's
trial and traced her via her ship, and accessed her personal details via
those shipping records. I am going to see if I can find out some more
about her. Also, discovered by working from the
Ship's manifest that Edward came from Ireland. National Archives of
Ireland gave a record of his trial and further investigation of
shipping records showed not only his personal details, but also that a brother,
John Carroll, came out on the Earl Grey. Had never heard of his
brother, John, so there's another avenue for me to pursue.
Edward stole potatoes (no previous offences), and John stole shoes (1 previous
offence of 3 months ).
Would you want any of these
details once I have reference as far as I can go? Do you know of any
other family member who might have current information on either Edward, Joanna,
John?
Yes, I appreciate that a survival instinct also needed a
big of devious behaviour and stretching of the truth!!! God bless
them, I'm sure I would have done the same ---- must be in the
blood.
Is it possible to be included on to that mailing list,
please?
Regards, Irene.
Hi
Irene,
Yes I would greatly
appreciate any further detail you could provide regarding Edward Carroll and
Johanna and his brother John, we do have a number of Carroll loose
ends in our database including at least one John.
If you would like to compile
a "Story" for both Edward and Johanna I will be very happy to add them to our
records with your name as contributor. Any family members who have expressed
interest and contributed would be listed on the site. Plus may be a
newsletter reader. David will be delighted to add you to our newsletter
distribution list.
Regards,
Ian
From: imason
To: sstackpole
Subject: Edward
Carroll ancestry/James Carroll line
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:55:42
+0000
Hello Carole,
I have recently discovered your Monaro District web
publication regarding the Descendants of Edward Carroll. Congratulations
on the work involved in the compilation of the family through the Edward
Carroll/Joanna Welch line as the material is quite extensive. Both of the
sisters of James Carroll certainly helped to populate Australia -- one with 16
children, and the other with 13. Makes James's 3 or 4 (1 deceased)
rather small.
I was formerly Irene Carroll - my father John Henry
Emmet Carroll was one of the 8 children of James Carroll and Mary
Gait.
I noticed that 6 of the 8 children of James and Mary
have been recorded and that in itself is an accomplishment.
Should you wish to note it publicly or privately note it,
I will supply the names of the children as listed on the
Birth Certificate of the
youngest--
8. Elizabeth Irene Renalda (my
namesake) both on 4 April, 1900--
1. Violet Mary was the
eldest, 16
2. Thomas Edward William (Ted or Will), 14
3.
James Frederick Gordon (Fred), 12
4. John Henry Emmet
( Harry or Jack) 9 (my Dad)
5. Herbert Alphonsus
Nash (Phonse or Fonce) 7
6. Lawrence Mervyn Gait (Mervyn)
4
7. Alma Maria Catherine Victoria (Alma) 2 - shows as twins on Irene's
Birth Certificate.
I'm inclined to think that this may simply be an
error and Alma had 4 names. My father had never told me about any sibling who
had died and 'Nil Deceased' appears on that same
Certificate.
Please feel free to make what you wish of this
information or simply do nothing at all. As far as Carroll ancestry goes,
also, the line seems to have faded in my generation -- girls seemed to
predominate and I know of no Carroll male carrying on the name.
The
main reason I'm emailing you is that
I'm really interested in the fact that
both Edward Carroll and Joanna Welch were recorded
as convicts. If the information came from the female side of the
family, then it is probably correct. All sorts of pains were taken,
and tales concocted to hide convict ancestry and as Mary Gait came down a
convict line we know of a romantic tale explaining that.
This
information set me on the path of discovery via Old Bailey records, and it
appears Joanna was 16 when she came to Australia - sentenced to 7 years for
larceny. Edward, tracing back from St Vincent records, was
tried at Kings Co (now Offaly, Ireland) and sentenced to 7 years at 17 years of
age for larceny. He was transferred to the hulk Essex - no
doubt to await transportation to Australia from Cork.
As Joanna
came to Australia in January 1831 on board Earl of Liverpool and was
16 at the time of her conviction in 1830 - her birth year must have been
1814. Edward arrived at 17 in 1837, so would have been born
about 1819. This would make Joanna 5 years older than him and
perhaps the reason for her 1809 supposed birth year. Many women put
their ages back and no doubt, she would have been a tiny little lady and able to
pass as younger.
Joanna's 'crime' was 'theft, simple grand larceny, 8th July,
1830, indicted for stealing 1 coat, value 3s, 1 handkerchief, value 6p and
gloves, value 6p"
There was a Hannah (also Ann) Welch tried in Dec
1829 - wife of a Thomas Welch (not John) - for passing counterfeit
coins. Her sentence was Death at age 34. I have been trying to
reconcile my head around the reason for Joanna to change her name to 'Johanna'
'Hannah' and 'Anna' on various certificates and wondered could the lady
sentenced to death about the time of Joanna's conviction could be the 'unknown'
mother? All speculative, of course. Was John Welch an
engineer? or simply a story?
Our family story was Edward came
freely as an assisted immigrant in about 1841-2 and Joanna told her
grandchildren that 'she was sent to Australia for stealing food from the
Governor's table'. I think the Tower of London
featured in there somewhere, but I cannot remember where. She
also said she came out as a children's nurse and the family died on the way
out. She may have been protected when she came out here,
but unless female convicts had a protector, they were at the mercy of many a
rogue and abuses were commonplace, unless they were particularly
wily. Shudder to think of life in those years.
Old
Bailey records show a Hannah Welch (10 January 1828) charged with theft of 6 lbs
bacon value 3s6p but found Not Guilty. One wonders if our
Joanna was actually the same person calling herself Hannah in the first
sentencing and after another theft - this time under a different
name - the judge could have decided that 2 attempts at larceny closely on the
heels of the other was enough to send her off to the
Antipodes.
The conviction offence (theft of coat, gloves,
handkerchief), in case you are not aware of it, took place in a local tavern in
the Devonshire Mews which she had entered in the company of 2 other women.
She was intercepted in Devonshire Street. Have you consulted the Old
Bailey files? They are interesting reading and so sad - indictments
on society more than the poor victims (convicts). www.oldbaileyonline.org
So
many came out here and led exemplary lives. Hence the quote 'there but for
the grace of God go I'.
Do you have any information about John
Carroll and Catherine Hayes? Being a soldier in Spain leads me to believe
an Irish contingent's involvement in the Napoleonic Peninsula War.
Would dearly love to know but don't know how to go about it.
My
Carroll cousins said that James Carroll enjoyed 'step dancing'.
Are you aware of such a reference i.e. can you elaborate if the stepdancing was
of Spanish origin or simply Irish jigging? Possibly Irish jigging if
Edward was Irish.
With all these questions, I'm assuming you are of
the Carroll line and that you do not regard me as being too forward in writing
to a 'cousin' x-times removed and bombarding you with befuddling questions. I
await your reply.
Best regards, Irene Mason (nee Carroll b.
3.11.1946)
From: Alma Appleton
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2010 4:03
PM
Subject: Incorrect information in January 2010
Newsletter
An error in your January 2010 newsletter. (relevant excerpt
pasted below)
My father was Algie Henry Smith James. Born with surname of
James, and died as James. and also married as James. I have a BDM
photostat of original Marriage Certificate containing signatures to prove
this! NOT Jakobi, and certainly not with the fanciful story 'Judy'
has attached to this error that was obviously made by BDM
listings.
This information below from your January 2010 contains
pure fabrication from the mind of the person researching. If the researcher had
checked she would have found this is a scanning/transcribing error of the
BDM records)
Error as follows:
14 Marriage Certificates scanned in 1924 listed surnames as
Jakobi when in fact, if cross-checked, these people were all born as JAMES. They
were all from various parts of NSW.
Note : Strangely there were no 'Jakobi' marriages
recorded in ANY other year than 1924 by the BDM. Obviously BDM had
a 'glitch' while digitizing their records at this point.
Could you please advise 'Judy' that I have original documents
stating 'JAMES', and I request that you remove this person's false and unhelpful
'imaginings', as this is disturbing to our family.
Thanks. Alma James
Excerpt:
Here's a doozy....
B9/2.1. Algie Henry Smith James, (Henry4; Julia3; Benjamin2;
James1) born in 1895 at Marrickville [NSW 14310/1895 14310/1895 ]
died in 1974 [NSW 5819/1974] aged 79 years.
He married as Algie Jakobi in 1924 to Ivy Enid Christina
Kachel.
Jakobi (German) for James. Kachel: German and Jewish
(Ashkenazic): metonymic occupational name for a potter, from Middle High German
kachel 'pot', 'earthenware vessel'.
After convincing myself this was simply a sp. error.
another family member pops up with the same name for marriage.....I'm convinced
it’s a religous tradition or somthing... best I can come up with.
B9/5.1. Christian James, (Robert John4; Julia3;
Benjamin2; James1) born in 1898 at Wollongong [NSW 17446/1898
17446/1898 ] died in 1970.
She married as Christina Jakobi in 1924 to Henry Ryall born
in 1899 at Orange [NSW 5771/1899] died in 1946 at Wollongong [NSW
14220/1946 14220/1946 ] aged years, son of John Edmund Ryall and Emily
Rebecca.
Cheers, Judy
Hi
Alma,
Your comments will appear in
the next newsletter. It would be nice if you could add more specific detail
to enhance our project.
Regards,
Ian
From: Ralph Morley
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2010 1:50 PM
Subject: White
Siblings
Dear Ian Harvey,
I have just come across an the list of descendants of Sidney
Adolphus White Compiled from the Monaro Pioneers Database
1. Sidney Adolphus White, son of William White and Ann, was
born in 1841 in Hinton, Somersetshire, England, died on January 11, 1927 in
Bombala, NSW1 at age 86, and was
buried in Bombala Cemetery, NSW Grave 9.
Notes: Sidney is believed to have come to Australia on board
a ship owned by Thomas Sutcliffe Mort who pioneered the cheese business at
Bodalla. in 1857 aged 16, landing at Moruya NSW. Another story is that Sidney
was sent out by his parents to find his brother Henry and Mary Ann White who had
settled in QLD as his mother missed them and asked Sidney to bring them home but
Sidney wrote back saying "England was never like this I am staying too". This
one could just be a story.
My Great Grandmother Mary Ann White may be the
sister Sydney was sent to find.
The following is what has been handed down to me by my
Grandma Ada's brother William Alfred, any comments on this would be greatly
appreciated.
Regards, Ralph Morley
"James William Jull a milliner (hat maker) and Mary Ann White
a nurse, emigrated from Somerset County and Cornwall County England in the mid
1850's. They met and married in Sydney where they lived for a time before moving
to Nimmitabel on the Monaro Highway near Bombala, Mary had a brother living
there.
Ada the eldest daughter in a family of three boys and six
girls was born at Bombala a town in N.S.W. on the Monaro highway south of Cooma
and about 70 km. north of the Victoria border. the date of her birth 5th
April 1860. Zilla was one of Ada' sisters.
Jamas William Jull was her father her mother being a Mary Ann
(White). The family moved to Drayton on the Darling Downs where Mary's brother
Henry was living, James made a living making and selling hats. When Toowoomba
began to be settled they shifted there continuing the business.
Henry White took up 1280 acres at Haden in 1876 and James and
Mary took up the adjoining block of 1280 acres in 1879, these properties are on
the left as you travel from Haden to Goombungee. James and Mary's property's
name was "Arlington".
Ada married George Cooke son of Richard Cooke and Mary
(Brown) immigrants from Ireland who settled first near Inverell N.S.W. but in
the 1871 took up several thousand acres on the top of the range farming Emu
Creek station below the range on the north. The name of George cook's property
was "mossdale" a property of some 3600 acers, it was situated on the Haden
Evergreen road on the very top of the range Mt. Cooke the highest point for
thirty miles around was on the property.
Ada and George were married on 04/08/1881 in the home of
James william Jull at Gomaran via Gowrie Junction on the Darling Downs just west
of Toowoomba.
Ada was killed by a car while she was crossing Adelaide
Street Brisbane, 18/06/1937 She had just received her pension and was going to
buy some dinner. Ada was laid to rest in the Toowong Cemetery, while her
husband George Cooke passed away on 24/09/1940 he to was buried in the Toowong
cemetery."
Hi
Ralph,
Sadly, I cannot shed any
further light on the mystery unfortunately. All the information we have is
already displayed on our site.
Regards,
Ian
From: Lyn and Wayne
Sent: Wednesday, 3 March 2010 10:37 AM
Subject: Researching Ada Letita Falkner from
Towamba
Hullo Ian,
I am trying to trace my fathers grandmother Ada Letitia
Falkner. She lived at Towamba and I believe she was born around 1874. Her
mother's name was Catherine and she married James Davis in 1890 at the
Presbyterian Church in Eden I can find marriage records and death records but
nothing on her birth. I found some info from another researcher who listed her
as Ada Letita (Croft) Falkner. This researcher is not prepared to give me any
info they have on her. The marriage certificate says she was under 21ys at the
time of marriage and her mother Catherine gave permission for the marriage. I
noticed the information on the relationship between Anthony Falkner and
Catherine Crofts and but two and two together but Ada is not listed amongst the
children on the site
I can find nothing on her husband James Davis other than the
wedding record and I think I have found his death
Ada's death certificate listed her father as George but how
reliable this is I am not sure as she died in 1950 after a second marriage and
my Grandmother did not tell her children of her mother's second marriage. At my
grandmothers funeral a lady came up to my Aunt an introduced herself as a step
sister of my grandmother!!!
Really enjoy the website and appreciate anything you may be
able to tell me
Cheers, Lyn Byrne
Hi
Lyn,
Sadly, we have nothing more
to add to your quest, you have already seen everything we know on this family so
far.
It is truly sad that some
people still persist with a possessive attitude towards information which only
sharing can enrich the enjoyment of the research. Fortunately, the folks
who make the Monaro Pioneers website what is DO NOT share this selfish and self
cantered view. In my experience, these negative and possessive people are
very small in number and thank god the vast majority of people are
good, generous and helpful folks who enjoy helping others. There is an old
saying "what goes around, comes around" and hopefully our site is a good
example thereof - if you can gain something from our site and give
something in return then we are all enriched by the process. Therein ends
the sermon.
Regards,
Ian
From: gopugh@bigpond.com
Sent: Tuesday, 2 March 2010
10:01 AM
Subject: Kirkland tree
I am interested in information on the Kirklands as they are
part of my maternal grandmothers' family At present I am interested in
Mary daughter of Henry and Eliza Ann who was (as per your site) born in 1869 at
Bungawalbyn near Lismore. I have searched for a registration of her birth
without success and wondered where this information was obtained - family bible
or records or from her death certificate? I just would like to be able to
varify it the information and would be grateful for your
assistance.
Gloria Pugh
Hi
Gloria,
The information was supplied
by Terry Howard.
The details were supplied
thus...
Extract From 'Fabric of a
Family' by Doug Parbery - Mary Kirkland (1869-?).Was born at Bungawalbyn
near Lismore, possibly at the home of Eliza's parents during a visit since the
family was again living in Bega two years later. She married John Thomas Clark
in 1895 and they had a family of at least eight:- Iva A. (Les?) (1895); Bruce J.
(1896); Albert J. (1897); Helen B. (1898); Vida (1899 m Thompson); Lynda M.
(1900); Laura M. 1903; Roy C. W. (1904).
However, I now believe her
birth was at least registered in Eden, NSW as the NSW BDM Index has the
following entries....
|
10421/1869
|
KIRKLAN
|
MARY
|
HENRY
|
ELIZA A
|
EDEN
|
|
|
10421/1869
|
KIRKLAW
|
MARY
|
HENRY
|
ELIZA A
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and I have updated our
site with some more information.
Regards,
Ian
From: Ben Kelly
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 4:54 PM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers Data Base
Hello Barbara / Ian,
Thank you for your work on the Monaro
Pioneers.
I am a descendant of Mr Daniel Gowing and found the
information on line very interesting. I think I have found one piece of missing
information in the geneology. Clement John Kelly (born Bega 1878) first
marriage was to Clara Anne Morgan in 1906 - NSW BDM Registration No. 10229/1906.
Clement John Kelly and Clara Anne Morgan had 3 children George Kelly, Tom
Kelly and Leslie John Edward Kelly.
Leslie John Edward Kelly was my grandfather. Apparently
his mother (Clara Anne Morgan) died when he was quite young and I believe that
Clement John remarried and that the marriage to Sarah E H. Roberts in 1926 was
his second marriage (as he was born in 1878 he would have been 48 at in 1926
which would have been very old for a first marriage).
Leslie John Edward Kelly married Mavis Hayward and they had
two children Russell Leslie Kelly (my father) and Allan Kelly.
I hope this information is useful. If I can help
further please let me know. I have attached a copy of a document which is work
in progress that summarises my family history. I thought this may be of
interest.
Regards, Ben Kelly
From: Barbara Adams
Sent: Monday, 1 March 2010 7:26
PM
Subject: Fw: Monaro Pioneers Data Base
Hi Ian,
I think Ben Kelly would have forwarded You all of this, but
in case he hasn't. All yours! It is great to see the descendants
looking at info, and wishing to contribute and add
further.. In this case the newspaper clipping photo you used, has sat
treasured, for a lifetime in our old family album. Now his
contact, really reminds me of what great work you do sharing the joy
around for the right people to see and connect to, What a gift!!!..
Without you, that old photo would have remained isolated. Keep up the
great work!!
All my best
Barbara
Hi
Barbara,
Yes I received his
information. Thanks for the kind words, but you should take the credit because
you donated the material in the first place and without the support of folks
like yourself, the MP website would be very limited indeed. It does certainly
give one a good feeling though and encouragement to keep
going.
Best regards,
Ian
From: Karen Kiss
Sent: Monday, 1 March 2010 5:45
PM
Subject: Kiss from the Monaro Pioneers
Hi Monaro Pioneers,
It was more than a few years ago when I first contacted this
membership group. My husband is a KISS but at the time I could not make a link
that fit the Monaro website. Since then much has been learned and needs to be
shared. I have contacted a number of the members over the past few years
so I have copied this to each of you listed as contributors to the Kiss side of
the Monaro Pioneers. Hopefully it is useful and accurate.
I look forward to any and all feedback.
Karen Kelly Kiss
P.S. I wish my maiden name of Kelly was as easy to research
as the Kiss side has been! LOLs I live in hope!
Karen and Dave Kiss
Hi
Karen,
Thanks for the
information.
Regards,
Ian
From: Ben Kelly
Sent: Monday, 1 March 2010 4:53
PM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers Data Base
Hello Barbara / Ian,
Thank you for your work on the Monaro
Pioneers.
I am a descendant of Mr Daniel Gowing and found the
information on line very interesting.
I think I have found one piece of missing information in the
geneology. Clement John Kelly (born Bega 1878) first marriage was to Clara
Anne Morgan in 1906 - NSW BDM Registration No. 10229/1906. Clement John
Kelly and Clara Anne Morgan had 3 children George Kelly, Tom Kelly and Leslie
John Edward Kelly.
Leslie John Edward Kelly was my grandfather. Apparently
his mother (Clara Anne Morgan) died when he was quite young and I believe that
Clement John remarried and that the marriage to Sarah E H. Roberts in 1926 was
his second marriage (as he was born in 1878 he would have been 48 at in 1926
which would have been very old for a first marriage).
Leslie John Edward Kelly married Mavis Hayward and they had
two children Russell Leslie Kelly (my father) and Allan Kelly. I hope this
information is useful. If I can help further please let me
know.
I have attached a copy of a document which is work in
progress that summarises my family history. I thought this may be of
interest.
Regards, Ben Kelly
Hi
Ben,
Thank you for the
information
Regards,
Ian
From: Margaret & John Jones
Sent: Monday, 1 March 2010
4:17 PM
Subject: descendant of thomas golby
Hi Ian
My name is Margaret Nowlan-Jones & my moyher was Moyia
Golby from Grosses plains Jindabyne South great to come across this
history
Margaret
Hi
Margaret,
We are pleased that you have
found our site interesting.
Regards, Ian
From: Bronwyn Davies
Sent: Monday, 1 March 2010 7:56 AM
Subject: Thomas Valentine
Dear Ian
I have just found this site while looking for information
about my family. I found that the entry under Thomas Valentine has some missing
data. It staes as follows: 17. Euston Barrington Blomfield (Henry Wilson2,
Thomas Valentine1) died in 1943 in Walcha, NSW.115
Euston married Alice Nivison in 1908 in Walcha,
NSW.239
F i. Lorna Nivison Blomfield
was born in 1909 in QLD.240
F ii. Nancie Margaret Nivison
Blomfield was born in 1912 in QLD.241
M iii. Barrington Nivison
Blomfield died in 1954 in Walcha, NSW.242
M iv. Max Nivison Blomfield
.
Max married Margaret Selden Higman in 1945 in Muswellbrook,
NSW.243
Euston and Alice had three more children: Norma Nivison
Blomfield, b 1914, d 1995 in Tamworth NSW, and Bettie and Joan, both deceased.
Norma had 4
children, Susanne Severin, Thomas Anthony, Bronwyn (me) and
John Llewellyn. We all have children and there are quite a few grandchildren.
Alice married Henry, Euston's brother, after Euston died. Lorna died in
childbirth, and Barrington died young in a shooting accident. best wishes
Bronwyn
Bronwyn Davies
Hi
Bronwyn,
Thank you for the
information.
Regards,
Ian
From: Bryan Power
Sent: Sunday, 28 February 2010 4:01
PM
Subject: Power stories for the Monaro Pioneers
website
Dear Ian,
I have finally (I hope) completed all of the 15 stories as
far as I am able and will be very pleased to see them published on your
excellent website. I shall send each story and its photos
separately.
The John and Mary Power story and the Michael and Jane Power
story will replace the ones you already have on the site. I had an editor friend
help me with the formatting of the stories and I have attached the instructions
I gave her. I have reduced all of the photos to a width of 300 pixels with the
exception of some landscape photos and some photos of large groups of people
which are 600 pixels wide. I have indicated in the text where the photos should
go should you be able to embed them. If not, the captions should be used with
the photos if they are placed in some other location.
I have checked and rechecked the texts and photos several
times but I'm sure that there will still be some errors that have evaded my
attention so please let me know of any that you come across please Ian. With
best regards, Bryan Power
Hi
Bryan,
Thank you for all the stories
and photos, I have completed the publication of your material on our
website. The John Power story page has a link from the Pioneer Index entry
page for John Power. On the Story page for John, there is individual links
to each child's story. I have also placed appropriate links on the Henry
Agnew, Joseph Hyde, Thomas Geraghty, John George Jess and Patrick Pendergast
pages. I hope this meets your approval.
Regards,
Ian
Dear Ian,
Thank you so much for publishing the stories on the website
site and for presenting them so well. I am pleased that you were able to embed
the photos with the stories. Just a small point that you will be able to fix,
I'm sure. In the story of John Power jnr and Henry Power the data in the lists
of their children's names are out of alignment. It is a great pleasure and
relief for me to see the stories so safely recorded.I'll send all my rellies an
email today to tell them how to access the website. Again, many thanks
Ian.
With warm regards, Bryan
Hi
Bryan,
I have completed (hopefully)
the update of our database records from the information in your stories and have
republished the Descendant reports for the following:
John Power, Michael Power,
Patrick Pendergast, Henry Agnew, John George Jess, Robert Alexander, Thomas
Geraghty, Morgan Joseph Thornton and Thomas Tracey.
That was quite an exercise
but worth the effort with all the extra information now available. Thanks
again for your very generous contribution.
Regards,
Ian
From: Roslyn Odell
Sent: 2010-03-02 08:01
Subject:
RE: Gordon Family Reunion 2010
Gordon Family Reunion - Are you descended from James Gordon
and Mary Isaacs ?
James was born in Glasgow Scotland in 1800 and they both died
in Tyrone Ireland in 1840. They had eight children, Mary-Ann (b 1824),
Simon (b 1825) James (b 1829), Robert (b 1830), Alexander(b 1832), Alice (b
1836), John (b 1838) and Margaret (b 1840).
After their parents deaths, the family left Ireland; Robert
and Alexander to Canada before 1855 and James, Simon and Mary Ann to
Australia (1853-1859), before all reuniting in the Pambula/Wolumla area in
Australia by 1873, the year of James' death at Kameruka. Nothing yet is
known of the fate of the 3 youngest children.
Some of the families descending from James and Mary Gordon
include the Clarke, Behl, White, Kelly, Scott, Goodsell, Booth, Fryer, McGrath,
Moffitt,
Gill, Williams, Radford, Fitzpatrick, Alexander and Clements
families.
If you are connected with this family, or have photos or any
information, or just wish to attend please reply by email for further details
from the
organizers.
WHEN: October Long Weekend 2010 Saturday 2nd and Sunday 3rd
October
2010-03-01
WHERE: SCHVC Club Rooms Greigs Flat Pambula NSW Saturday,
Oaklands Pambula
Sunday.
CONTACTS : Ros Odell
rodell@netspeed.com.au
Alexis (Lexi) Furner
iafurner@bigpond.com
From: Pat Gillingham
Sent: 2010-02-28
14:56
Subject: Monaro Pioneers
Could you please check January 2009 newsletter for the death
of John EPPELSTUN please? I believe that he died November 2008
I am descended from his Great Grandfather John’s brother
James Heppingstall LONG of Swan Hill
Thanking you for rechecking (I gave you the wrong newsletter
date earlier)
Pat GILLINGHAM
Hi
Pat,
Which John Epplestun are
you refering too? There is no John Eppelstun mentioned in the January
Newlestter. Date of Birth would be very helpful.
Regards,
Ian
From: Cecilie Mortlock
Sent: Sunday, 28 February 2010
12:32 PM
Subject: Thomas Mortlock
Hi Ian could you please help me. I am hoping you will look at
the photos listed under Thomas Mortlock
Thomas Mortlock
Maneroo c1843 there are 4 photos
listed under Thomas Mortlock could you please remove the bottom 2 as
I have quite a few emails Questioning who is who I notice you have 2 similiar
photo's under his son John Thomas Mortlock & Mary Pegram that should be
enough. These are the 2 to remove I hope you will help me.
regards Cecilie Mortlock
Hi
Cecilie,
Should be correct
now....
Regards,
Ian
Many Thanks Ian arn't you on the ball
Regards Cecilie
From: robyn
Date: 18/02/2010 5:32:37 PM
Subject: re atwell family history
Hi Pattrick,
My name is Robyn Baxter & I am researching my family
history. I googled Robert Atwell to try & find some history on my
family members & The Monaro Pioneer Project popped up & I found other
family members names as well. It said his wife was Eleanor Blundell, wife 2
Katurah Elizabeth & child Alfred Sydney Atwell. I was trying to access this
info from the site but those names just kept popping back up. Is it possible for
the info on this family be emailed to me please. Robert Atwell was my
greatgrandfather, but his wife was Isabella Ellen Everett. Robert's sister was
Katurah Elizabeth Atwell. Alfred Atwell was his brother. An Alfred Atwell
did marry Eleanor Blundell & I believe had a female child Named Alma. I am
still not sure if that Alfred is connected to me. I think this family is
mine but the info appears wrong so I would appreciate seeing what you have on
the site. I would then be happy to share any information I have to correct
any wrongs.
Kind Regards, Robyn
Hi
Robyn,
All the information we have
is contained in our database which has a search facility on our home page.
You can down load information from there if you so
wish.
http://www.monaropioneers.com/
Regards,
Ian
Hi Ian,
Thanks for the reply. I have been onto the site & noted
that you have changed Robert's wife to Isabella Ellen Everett. Is it
possible to find out who gave you this information as if it is my Robert Atwell
the information is wrong. He did not have a son Alfred Sydney Atwell. He
did have brothers Alfred, Charles & Albert. Robert Atwell
& his wife Isabella Ellen had 5 daughters. Dorothy born
1894, Beatrice born 1896, Mildred born 1901 ( my grandmother),
Phyllis born 1905 & Ella born 1909. Isabella died 1914. & is
buried at Mays Hill Cemetery. Robert died 1925 & is buried at Rookwood.
Robert's sister Keturah (sometimes spelt Katurah but on her
brothers death certificate its spelt Keturah), married Robert Delaney.
There is a BDM ( death) entry for an Alfred Sidney Atwell as being the
child of Robert & Keturah Atwell & an entry for him being listed
as a child of Keturah & Robert Delaney so we have a problem somewhere
there an I now tend to think maybe he was born out of wedlock but can't find his
birth. This is the Alfred Sydney that married Eleanor Blundell & I
believe their child was Alma.
This is confusing to me so it must look jibberish to you but
if its my family I would like things to be right or removed so thats why I was
wondering where it first came from. I was also wondering what the Atwell's
link was to the Eden / Monaro area. All I can think of is the Eleanor Blundell
side as she has a connection to Blundell's Cottage in Canberra.
I will leave it there, Thanks Robyn
Hi
Robyn,
There is no specific
contributor for that information, Alfred Sydney Atwell/Delaney is in our
database because he was the husband of Eleanor Blundell. We have many
families in our database from the Queanbeyan area. From the little extra
research I have done, I believe Alfred Sydney was the son of Robert Delaney and
Keturah Elizabeth Atwell, born Sidney A. Delany 1887 Penrith (29836/1887).
Why he changed his name to his mother's maiden name I don't
know.
Regards,
Ian
From: Murray & Shirley
Date: 21/02/2010 2:24:49 PM
Subject: Shirley Sorrenson
Hello,
have just been looking on your website as I have a family
connection there; James Skipper. Does your pioneer site only deal in families in
that area or is it all over Australia? I am trying to research a family in the
Warrnambool area but having no luck at all. Is there someone there that might be
able to help or maybe you have some suggestions? Any help greatly appreciated,
Shirley Sorrenson
Hi
Shirley,
Our site does mainly
concentrate on the Eden/Monaro area but as part of the research and
contributions supplied we have many families included in our database from all
over NSW and beyond. We have no specific focus on the Warrnambool
area. Our database does have a search facility on our home page you can
use.
Regards,
Ian
From: iuqcaj
Date: 26/02/2010 12:06:37 PM
Subject: query - rankin family
Hello
On your website I have found to families Donald Rankin and
what appears to be his son John Rankin. Some of the material match as John's
parents are stated as Donald Rankin and Ann McDonald, Ellen Rankin has the same
siblings in both families but different spouses? Could you please tell me
if these two families connected?
Kind Regards Jacqui
Hi
Jacqui,
Could you please supply the
webpage addresses where you found this information as I am unable to locate the
specific information to which you refer. Our database does not contain any
marriages between a John Rankin and an Ellen.
Regards,
Ian
From: Jude
Sent: 2010-02-27 17:28
Subject:
Correction for MP.doc
Hi David,
Only a small deletion - see attached.
Mary Anne married John Henry Freebody and those details
are all fine.
Cheers, Judy
Change done as
requested.
Regards,
Ian
From: Cathie Ford
Sent: Saturday, 27 February 2010 11:54
AM
Subject: Additional information on Harvey Spencer
Tindal
Hi Ian,
Thanks for taking the time to read my
information.
RE: 150. Harvey Spencer Tindal
children from this marriage included Alwyn Randolph Tindal as
published as well as Heather Alberta Tindal (F) 23/ 08/ 1917 still living (my
grandmother) and Donald Tindal born 1937 I will have to get his birth date
details. As I said Heather is my grandmother and living on the Central
coast NSW. She has Alzheimer's but has great long term memory still. If you
would like to have more info or photos please contact me . Cathie Ford.
Hi
Cathie,
Thank you for the additional
information, we would be very grateful for any photos you could
contribute.
Regards,
Ian
From: beau simpson
Sent: Friday, 26 February 2010 1:43
PM
Subject: McDonald Family History
Dear Ian,
My name is Beau Simpson and I have been searching for
information about my great grandmother Catherine McDonald for the last 18
years. On the Monaro Pioneers site I believe the the Catherine born to Archibald
and Ann McDonald 1853 is in fact my great grandmother. My family story is a
little strange as my grandfather was informally adopted some time shortly after
his birth by Alfred and Ellen Woodbride of Brunswick Victoria.
I have a copy of his birth certificate which I have attached,
he was born 27-5-1882 unfortunatley the writing is difficult to read and I am
unable to read the placeof birth, think King St. His mother does not disclose
the fathers name, als I am not sure if the information about her place of birth
is correct. On the certificate you will see her handwriting which is quite
distinctive and I have also attached
another certificate re, the marriage of George Young to
Catherine McDonald at Kilmore 1871. You will notice the witness signature as
being the same as on my grandfathers birth cert.
I am not suggesting the Catherine being married is my
grandmother but the witness maybe certainly this is the same distinktive hand
writing. George young is the father of George William McDonald young who married
Zoe Buck and they in tturn had a son George that married Ellen Selinda
Woodbridge the daughter of Alfred and Ellen.
I would like to find where Catherine is burried if known and
any further details .I suspect that it may be in the Kilmore, Bylands area but
am unable to confirm.
I have written the story of my grandfather and my search and
would gladly sent this to you if interested it details his Boer War service and
service in the 8th. Light Horse at Gallopoli.
My search started in a rather strange way and has taken many
interesting turns including finding lost relatives, at least unknown to me. An
interesting thing is that as my father changed his name
my fathers name is Simpson his father Woodbridge and his
McDonald Any help you may be abe to give will be greatly
appreciated
regards, Beau Simpson
Hi
Beau,
Unfortunately, we have no
information on Catherine McDonald that might assist
you.
Regards, Ian
From: Dunnrite
Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2010 9:52
PM
Subject: Descendants of Patrick Whelan
Hello Ian Harvey,
I write to you from Tauranga New Zealand in regard to the
descendants of Patrick Whelan of which I am one. My letter hopefully
will be self explanatory. Please feel free to contact me should you feel the
need to do so.
Kind regards, Ric Dunn, New Zealand
To the Monaro Pioneers database
23 February 2010
Hello Ian Harvey,
In regard to, descendants of Patrick Whelan compiled from the
Monaro Pioneers database after some additional research by Ian Harvey:
19/11/07
http://www.monaropioneers.com/whelan_Patrick.htm#i58790
and in particular, descendants of 2 M i Roger Whelan -
namely:
F iv. Catherine Teresa Whelan, born on August 8, 1875 in
Bega, NSW32 and baptised on
September 26, 1875 in St. Patrick's Catholic Church, Bega, NSW was my
grandmother.
Catherine Teresa Whelan (known by family and friends as
Kitty) married Laurence Dunn on April 29, 1903 in the Catholic Church, Waihi,
Hauraki District, New Zealand. Their marriage licence number is 1903/2271.
“Kitty” died August 17, 1951 in Auckland, NZ. Her death certificate number
is 1951/26032.
They had 4 children all of whom are now dead.
Of perhaps greater interest to you, Catherine had a sister
whose title was Rev Mother Mary Alacoque.
Our family records say Rev Mother
Mary Alacoque died on June 27, 1923.
During my search for ancestors of Catherine Whelan, Roger
Whelan and Jane Grealy and my finding the Monaro Pioneers database, I also found
Rev Mother Mary Alacoque.
Rev Mother Mary Alacoque died June 27, 1923 and was buried in
section BRC1, row C and plot 8 in the Blackheath Cemetery, Blue Mountains, NSW,
Australia.
Whilst her age at death is listed on the Blue Mountain registry as
being 49, I believe Rev Mother Mary Alacoque, a known sibling of Catherine
Teresa Whelan is most likely to be the person named in the Monaro Pioneers
database as:
F i. Mary Whelan born on January 18, 1871 in Bega, NSW29 and was baptised
on September 4, 1872 in St. Patrick's Catholic Church, Bega, NSW.
I have not been successful in finding either a NSW death
certificate number for Mary Whelan, or indeed Rev Mother Mary Alacoque.
Perhaps your people will have greater success?
The link to information on Rev Mother Mary Alacoque’s burial
is:
http://www.bmcc.nsw.gov.au/cemetery_register/map/maps.cfm?rid=3100&s=1&tid=0.811071843577
I commend you for the good work you have done with the Monaro
Pioneers database and thank you for making it accessible for people such as
myself wanting to find our ancestors.
Through your database I have found
information on my great grandparents Roger Whelan and Anne Jane Grealy, names I
already had - but that was all. Thanks to your Monaro Pioneers database we now
know much more about the Whelans and the Grealys.
It would be great to find some photo’s of our ancestors but I
am very pleased with my efforts to date.
I trust the information I have supplied is of some use to
you?
If you are successful in learning the death certificate number for Mary
Whelan or Rev Mother Mary Alacoque, I would very much appreciate knowing
it.
Kind Regards. Ric Dunn
Grandson of Catherine Teresa
Whelan, Great Grandson of Roger Whelan and Anne Jane Grealy
Hi
Ric,
Thanks for the information
and kind words. The NSW BDM Index shows that Elizabeth Whelan, daughter of Roger
and Annie died in 1923 in Katoomba Registration district, NSW 13244/1923.
Blackheath would have been part of this district so I am guessing that it is
Elizabeth and not Mary who died as Rev Mother Mary Alacoque. Perhaps Mary,
like her sister went to NZ?
Regards,
Ian
From: Petal & Clea Smith
Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2010 2:31 PM
Subject: Alfred Albert Victor Smith
Dear Ian,
I am able to provide a little more information on Alfred
Albert Victor Smith. From a transcription of his death certificate 1938/27577
Alfred died on the 30 October 1938, at Manly District Hospital, NSW. His
occupation given as a Linesman. His wife's full name Louisa Ethel ( nee George )
The couple had 6 children. I am happy to provide the transcription if it is of
any interest.
Regards, Marianne Smith
Hi
Marianne,
Thanks for the
information.
Regards,
Ian
From: Leon Bell
Sent: Wednesday, 24 February 2010 2:04
PM
Subject: Edmund Bell/Mary Ann Bellchambers
Hello Ian,
I have found out (With extended research) that the
Edmund Bell we have listed, could not have been my Father Leon Bellchambers,
Father!! (See below) where Edmund Bell died in 1878. My father was not born to
Mary Ann Bellchambers till 1893. So at this stage it is "Father Unknown"! Sorry
for the inconvienence! I'm hopeing to sort out a few "truths" at the
Bellchambers Family reunion, to be held at Bankstown in Sydney at Easter this
year, that I will be attending.
Kind Regards, Leon Bell
Mary had a relationship with
Edmond Bell, son of Thomas Bell and Elizabeth. This couple did not marry. Edmond
was born in 1852. • Occupation: Wool buyer.
Thanks,
Regards,
Ian
From: Ted Washbrook
Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2010 5:46
PM
Subject: Charles William Cooper ANZAC
Hello Ian,
Regarding the Anzac pages,I may be able to put some flesh on
William Charles Cooper.
Charlie was married to my paternal grandmother, Kathleen Anne
nee Cantrill. They came to Australia aboard the SS Euripides in 1915. Charlie
was a steward on the ship and my grandmother, about 15 and sailed from England
with her mother, her father had died in 1899 and her mother Mary Cantrill nee
Hayes remarried William Arnold Bullen, at this stage I cannot find any reference
to him coming to Australia but a William Arnold Bullen died in Sydney in
1941.
Charley signed off from the ship in Melbourne and made his
way back to Sydney, he enlisted in the AIF , he and 'Kit' were married at
Enmore on 20th September 1915, at that time his address was 'Soldier The
camp, Liverpool.
He sailed on HMAT Beltana that was one of the 38 ships that
formed a convoy at Albany WA, he completed the 7 days Field punishment No. 2
for 'urinating in the lines' and embarked to the WW1 front in France near
Etaples. He was wounded and was transferred back to England where his
recuperation was somewhat hindered by the ' Spanish flu" that was prevalent at
the time.When he was fit again he was sent back to the front, again at Etaples,
the records show that he was wounded again and went to the clearing station and
because the wound was minor he was treated and went back to his
unit.
On 15 February 1918 he was cleaning his rifle in
his dug out, his dugout companion Sydney Paul Bernasconi was also cleaning his
rifle when it is said to have exploded wounding Charlie severely, the injuries
as described we ,fractured pubis,lacerated bladder,torn urethra,a hole in his
bowel and a wound penetrating his stomach. On 16 February 1918 he succumbed to
his injuries and died,he was 23 years old.
A courts martial was convened and Sydney Paul Bernasconi
was found responsible for the death and was awarded 40 days field
punishment No 2, It should be noticed that Charlie was awarded 7 days Field
Punishment No 2 for urinating in the lines.
The official description for Field Punishment No. 2 is "
:the Manual of law, 1914 explains it as being kept in irons ( fetters or
handcuffs ) which may be secured to prevent escape. Whilst being "subjected to
the like labour, employment , restraint and dealt with in a like manner as
if he were under a sentence of imprisonment with hard labour."
Charlie's fatal wounds were declared to be accidentally
received thereby denying any pension that was due to his NOK, originally his
papers first indicated that he died of wounds received in action,this was
changed to accidentally received.
As an aside, in the ships gathered at Albany WA was the ship
'Hororata', aboard this ship is another of the ANZACs in your file, Raymond
Monaghan Hayes. He was my maternal great uncle, there is a memorial in Cooma
named after him, I'm not sure if he was the first man from the Snowy or the
first Australian killed in WW1.
Any further information you wish I will do my
best. Cheers, Ted Washbrook
Thanks
Ted,
Regards,
Ian
From: Robyn van Stom
Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2010 1:01
PM
Subject: John Stanford
Hello Ian,
I found the Hutchinson family information very
interesting. My grandmother's mother was Anne Marie Hutchinson. We
knew nothing of her family as she never mentioned them. We had no idea she
even had brothers. We thought there may have been some sort of Scottish
connection and this information confirms this. Now I am trying to find
more information on John Stanford's father - another John who married Mary Skeen
in 1851. Anne Hutchinson was married to John Stanford and I am trying to
find out when and where he came from to Australia.
Thanks very much, Robyn van Stom
Regards,
Ian
From: John Goode
Sent: Monday, 22 February 2010 11:52
AM
Subject: Hyles family tree
Dear Ian.
I am researching my family tree, and my mother was Essie
Vivian Goode nee Hyles. Looking at the "Descendants of Richard Hyles"
listed are the children in blue print of a individual then, under the names in
blue are others in black print, they are not their children because of the dates
shown, sorry to be so dumb, could you give me a little help. Also, Charles Withy
Hyles I believe was born in Adaminaby, not Goulburn, which would fit in with his
brothers and sisters.
Best regards, John Goode
Hi
John,
Anything displayed in blue is
a "link" which you can click with your mouse and your internet browser will
automatically jump to that location. For example when a family is
displayed and an individual has dependants, they will be shown in blue with a
link to the location further down the page where their family is displayed
in full. Any individual who has no dependants will be displayed
in black. Therefore, feel free to mouse click any text you see in blue and enjoy
the further detail you will find.
Regards,
Ian
From: r e
Sent: 2010-02-21 17:24
Subject: chidgey family-bombala
Dear David,
I am seeking information about the person I believe to be my
late father's mother and her family. Beatrice Lillian Chidgey, daughter of Frank
and Maria, was born in 1876 and her birthplace registered as Bombala. In 1900,
in Sydney, she married Charles Turner from Dunedin NZ who died in
1909.
Beatrice then married Walter Seymour in 1916, also in Sydney.
Although I am particularly interested in Beatrice any information about the
Chidgeys in the Monaro would be most appreciated. Could you please let me know
how I can make a donation and what amount would be appropriate. I'm most
grateful for your assistance.
Yours sincerely, Lillian Reilly (nee Seymour)
Hi
Lillian,
We do have some information
on the Chidgey family although our information on Bridget is
limited.
If you use the link below it
will show you the family tree of George John Chidgey and from there you can see
all the information we have.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=monaropioneers&id=I111799
The only contribution we seek
for our project is the family information to help build each tree, what we have
we display free of charge.
Regards,
Ian
From: Peter Mc Innes
Sent: Friday, 19 February 2010 8:39
AM
Subject: William James Cochrane new 18/2/10
Hello Ian,
I am a descendant of William James > William m Annie
Fisher Gregg > Eliza m George Lindsay > Douglas Lindsay > me
Glenda Lindsay. I am hoping that you can put me in contact with the contributor
re obtaining photos of the above family, if any. Thank you very much for your
help.
Regards Glenda McInnes nee Lindsay.
Hi
Glenda,
Wow you are quick, that page
was only added yesterday. There is no specific contributor for that information,
I put it together with the information already contained in our database.
We have no photos as yet either.
Regards,
Ian
From: Michelle Ambrosini
Sent: Wednesday, 17 February
2010 5:27 PM
Subject: Descendants of Alexander Crawford
Hi Ian
Whilst I am not related to the above family, I had noted in
the Monaro narrative applicable to Alexander Crawford, that the ship he and his
family arrived in 1838 upon was unknown. I was doing some research on another
family when I lucked upon the Crawford family. The ship they arrived on was
called the “PORTLAND” and arrived in Sydney on 18th December
1838.
The family was listed as Alexander age 40 a shepherd, Mary
38, sons John 19,Archibald 5, daughters Flora 17,Margaret 15,Elizabeth
12,Catherine 10,Mary 7 and Jenny, an infant of 8 months. I am hoping this little
bit of information in regards to the ship will be helpful to the
descendents.
Regards, Michelle
Thank you
Michelle,
Regards,
Ian
From: Carolyn Mulhall
Sent: Wednesday, 17 February 2010
9:21 AM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers - Robinson
Dear Ian,
I am still gathering information regarding my
family which includes the Chapmans, the Sercombes, the Hunters and the Williams
(descendants of Nash). My great grandmother, Eliza Ellen Williams married
John Robinson at Tantawangelo on June 25th 1874, witnessed by George Robinson
(who I might presume to be the groom's brother) and Caroline Isabel Williams who
was the bride's sister. However, as much as I have searched the database I
cannot find my John Robinson among the Robinsons on the site and because of the
place of the marriage and the connection with the Williams, I would have thought
he would have been of the Monaro area and a member of Charles Robinson's
family. Are you able to throw light on this? Any pointers you could give
would be greatly appreciated.
Regards, Carolyn
Hi
Carolyn,
You will find your Great
Grandmother under the Robert Williams (1815) Daniel Tindall pages. We do
have John Robinson born September 25, 1854 in Dapto (no death information as
yet) married to Eliza Ellen Williams. John Robinson's parents were James
and Mary. We have no information as yet to connect this
Robinson family with the other Robinson's of the Eden/Monaro area. John's
birth certificate and marriage certificate may shed some further
light.
Regards,
Ian
From: Joye Walsh
Sent: 2010-02-16 22:21
Subject:
Monaro Pioneers - James Rixon
Hi David
A small change for your current info
William next married Bertha M. Ramsey in 1908 in Bombala,
NSW.1345
Children from this marriage were:
M i. Thomas William Rixon was born
in 1909 in Victoria.
F ii. Gladys May Rixon was born in
1911 in Victoria.
F iii. Annie Rixon was born in 1914
in Victoria.
F iv. Bertha Dorothy Rixon was born
in 1923 in Victoria.
M v. Marcus Rixon was born in 1924
in Victoria.
I believe the correct last child should be
Mavis.
William Rixon b: 02 December 1867 Towamba 10422 8902/1868 d:
22 August 1929 Bairnsdale, Vic m: 31 December 1907 Bombala 1047/1908
Baptised
2.12.1867
Father: Thomas Rixon Mother: Jane Ann Laing
+ Bertha Mary Ramsey b: 1887 d: 12 September 1953
...... 2 Thomas William Rixon b: 1909 Orbost, Victoria d:
Abt. 1993
.......... +Enid May d: 08 September 1996 Benambra, Vic
...... 2 Gladys May Rixon b: 1911 Orbost, Victoria
...... 2 Annie Ilene Rixon b: 18 February 1914 Orbost,
Victoria d: Abt. 1955
.......... +Frederick Bird d: Abt. 1993
...... 2 Bertha "Dorothy" Rixon b: 06 February 1925 Victoria
...... 2 Mavis Rixon b: 1927 d: Abt. 1931
Thanks for the wonderful site - I refer to it
frequently.
Cheers, Joye
Thank you
Joye,
Regards,
Ian
From: Marilyn K Costa
Sent: Monday, 15 February 2010 8:16
PM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers - Johnston
15th February, 2010
Dear Mr Harvey,
Thank you and your other contributors for the Monaro Pioneers
website .It is a wonderful resource and must have taken a long time to compile.
I was thrilled to be able to find information about my grandfather, John
Henry Johnston born 15th Feb, 1884 - died August 26, 1941. My grandmother was
Inez Mealing born in 1892 in The Bog, Bendoc Vic and died on January
28,1965. Do you have any more information about my grandmother and her
family?
Kind regards, Marilyn
Hi
Marilyn,
Thank you for the kind words,
yes we do have some additional information which has now been added to the
Richard Johnston page on our web site.
Regards,
Ian
From: Marilyn K Costa
Sent: Wednesday, 17 February 2010
9:30 PM
Subject: Re: Monaro Pioneers – Johnston
Hello Ian,
Thank you for the updated info. for Richard Johnston on the
Monaro Pioneers site.
I have noticed on The Monaro Pioneers Project - Pioneers an
Settlers Database some information you may like to add.
Under the heading John Henry Johnston b 15 feb 1884 d 26 Aug
1941 who married Inez Mealing b 1892 d 28 Jan 1965 the new information is for
their children:
After Ruby Martha Johnston, add Vera Johnston Born 1918 Died
28 July 1999. The remaining childrens names are correct. Also need to add Allan
Johnston Born 24 Sept 1924 still living who was born before William Keith
Johnston. Also Unknown Johnston should read William Keith Johnston b 6 April
1929, died March 17, 1997. This last addition is in regard to my father. Lastly
Harold Johnston also one of the children died in the 1990's not sure what
year.
Yours sincerely, Mrs Marilyn Costa
Hi
Marilyn,
Thank
you,
Regards,
Ian
From: rhonda
Sent: Sunday, 14 February 2010 8:31
PM
Subject: re Archibald Hugh McDonald ( M 25)
Hi Ian, I have been looking at the Monaro Pioneers Database
and my grandfather was Archibald Hugh McDonald (M25). He is descendant of
Alexander and Christina McDonald. What I found interesting is my mother(still
living is listed as Evelyn) but he also had a son my mums brother Edward
McDonald who has passed away and never married so he never had any
children, my mother had 5 children 3 girls 2 boys. I do have photos of
grandfather and can also give you dates and info. should it be of any interest
to this site which is just so very informative. I know my Great
grandfather was Black Sandy my mum has talked about him over the years.I just
thought it may be of some interest and I would love to see Uncle Ed's name on
this sight. Thank you all for the incredible reading and the wonderful look into
our family history. Regards Rhonda Perry ( daughter of Evelyn Dicker Nee Mc
Donald)
Hi
Rhonda,
Thanks for the kind words,
yes we would be very grateful for any additional information and images you
could contribute.
Regards,
Ian
From: Christene
Sent: Monday, 15 February 2010 8:00 AM
Subject: help please
goodmorning,
I am hoping that you might be able to help me. with 2
separate, but possibly connected issues the first being
A.......................
I was contacted before Christmas by a gent from Albury who
had been given very wrong information he was lead to believe that he was part of
my family a transcription agent had made an error, so I am trying to help him
without further cost to either of us, but in doing so I have come across a
few walls, not brick walls, but walls that I do not want to pay to
scale.
so this is the situation....he is descended from a marriage
of John McGrath and Sarah Leplaw 1874
1888/1874 MCGRATH
JOHN LEPLAW SARAH BEGA
John died 1883 buried Bega having parents Patrick and
Anne.....the transcription agent gave info to Neville of Albury that this lad
was bn 1857
Braidwood....but alas that John being my John died 1914 a
bachelor living with 2 spinster sisters on land called Meroo just outside of
Braidwood
certificates and obits to prove it....and a joint grave in
Braidwood......so I set about to find his JOHN MCGRATH....the church record of
marriage
shows no age place of birth nor parents names nor time in the
colony I need to find info on John this is where you come in.....would you have
cemetery transcripts for Bega this would give a deffinate date of death and
maybe an obit I have the death cert but it parts no info at all,,no age place of
birth...nothing I wish to avoid buying a marriage cert .....would you have
contact with any of the descendents??
Johns death
3223/1893 MCGRATH
JOHN PATRICK ANNIE M BEGA
children
7836/1875 MCGRATH WILLIAM JOHN
SARAH BEGA
8453/1877 MCGRATH DAVID JOHN
SARAH BEGA
14755/1881 MCGRATH MAHALIA JOHN
SARAH BEGA
16778/1883 MCGRATH ABRAHAM JOHN
SARAH BEGA
9826/1879 MCGRATH JOHN JOHN
SARAH BEGA
20012/1889 MCGRATH ELIZABETH E JOHN
SARAH BEGA
6626/1891 MCGRATH FREDERICK G JOHN
SARAH BEGA
B-----------------------------------------------
While trying to help Neville I found a distant link to my
family to this lass who here has no father mentioned
18301/1884 LEPLAW
TERESIA MAHALIA BEGA
I see that the surname Leplaw is in your pioneer list...I
have a fair bit of English history for them but blank here would anyone there
know if Teresia was a child born to this Mahalia???? prior to
marriage
marriage
4801/1885 RILEY GEORGE HENRY LEPLAW
MAHALIA MORUYA
children
18942/1885 RILEY LOUISA A GEORGE H R
MAHALIA BEGA 20252/1886 RILEY
BEATRICE E GEORGE H MAHALIA MORUYA
21231/1888 RILEY ARTHUR W D GEORGE
H MAHALA MORUYA 22659/1890 RILEY
ELSIE M GEORGE H MAHALLA MORUYA
22930/1891 RILEY ERNEST H GEORGE H
MAHALIA MORUYA 23519/1893 RILEY
CECIL C GEORGE H MAHALIA MORUYA
34376/1895 RILEY ELMA A GEORGE H
MAHALIA MORUYA 14191/1902 RILEY ERIC
GEORGE H MAHALIA MORUYA 5089/1898
RILEY MATTHEW GEORGE H MAHALIA MORUYA
Christene I have a lot of info of
the Kennedys and Mcgraths of Braidwood,,,the arrived
1840 from TYrone
Hi
Christene,
Unfortunately I do not have
the Bega Cemetery Transcriptions so I am unable to help on that question. All
the families you refer too are in the Monaro Pioneers database in varying
degrees of completeness. There is no specific contact for this information
as it has been largely gathered by myself or supplied as part of other family
contributions. Yes, I believe Theresa Leplaw was the illegitimate daughter of
Mahalia.
If there are any errors or
omissions in our information and you can help to rectify same, we would be very
grateful. The same applies to any additional information your may care to
add to our project. Sorry I cannot be more help in your
quest.
Regards,
Ian
From: rcconstable
Sent: Sunday, 14 February 2010 7:10
PM
Subject: family info
Hi Ian,
More info, Various pieces of information below have been
obtained from the Moruya Pioneers A – Z Index which was compiled and published
by the Moruya & District Historical Society. Any information relating to
military service is printed in BLUE.
Charles Colefax (31583) and Harriet Constable (31584) had 13
children.
ID: 157931 -William James COLEFAX – born 21 Nov 1868,
Newstead, Moruya NSW 7763/1868. Died 28 Sept 1952, Newtown NSW 17935/1952.
Buried Salvation Army Section, Macquarie Park Cemetery & Crematorium.
Married 5 July 1899, Newtown NSW 6299/1899 to Alice Althea GADDEE (157945). Died
15 Nov 1965, South Sydney Hospital, Balmain NSW 34741/1965.
Buried Salvation Army Section, Macquarie Park Cemetery &
Crematorium.
ID: 157932 - Ellen Ann COLEFAX – born 5 June 1870. Sawyers
Flat, Bergalia NSW 7983/1870. Died 17 March 1901, Stroud NSW 3182/1901.
Buried CE Section, Moruya Cemetery NSW with her parents. Married 1891,
Moruya NSW 5388/1901 to Dawson FLETCHER (157948) – born 12 Aug 1858, Glasgow,
Scotland. Died 28 Dec 1929, Randwick NSW 2251/1930. Buried Presbyterian Section,
Rookwood Cemetery. Son of Dawson Fletcher SR & Elizabeth
Mossman.
ID 157933 – Amelia COLEFAX – born 31 Dec 1872 Sawyers Flat,
Bergalia NSW 8086/1872. Died 10 April 1873, Sawyers Flat, Bergalia NSW
3578/1873.
ID: 157934 – Mary Jane COLEFAX – born 8 Aug 1873, Sawyers
Flat, Bergalia NSW 8443/1873. Died 1963, Sydney NSW 29778/1963. Married 27 July
1904, St John’s Church, Moruya NSW 6927 to Duncan Thomas MCINTOSH (157956) –
born
21 Feb 1869, Moruya NSW 9047/1869. Died 1954, Chatswood NSW
1724/1954. Son to John McIntosh (137495) & Georgina
Busby(160565).
ID: 157935 – Amelia COLEFAX – born 20 March 1875, Sawyers
Flat, Bergalia NSW 8827/1875. Died 1952, Ashfield NSW 19709/1952.
ID: 157936 – Evangaline COLEFAX – born 20 March 1877, Candoin
Creek, Moruya NSW 9359/1877.
ID: 157937 – John Chesworth COLEFAX (AKA Jack)
ID: 157942 – Abraham Charles COLEFAX – born 23 Oct 1881,
Moruya NSW 15004/1881. Died 1966, Newcastle NSW 33653. (NB: B,D,M all registered
as COLFAX). Married 1912, Sydney NSW 72/1912 to Janet Millicent MACLAREN
(157947) – born 1888, Nowra NSW 35581/1888. Died 1957, Newcastle NSW 6298/1957.
(NB: death registered as COLFAX). Dau of Robert Maclaren (168470) & Juliet
Mclean Waddell (168469).
It appears that Janet has 2 ID numbers (157947) &
(176054).
ID: 31585 – Edward Albert COLEFAX - born 30 Aug 1883,
Moruya NSW 17007/1883. (NB: birth registered as Edward A. COLFAX). Died 17 Feb
1966, Merrylands NSW 12178/1966. Married 27 Oct 1910, Moruya NSW 12697/1910 to
Helen Rutherford CALDWELL (31570) - born 1888, Majors Creek,
near Braidwood NSW 17371. Died 4 March 1968, Merrylands NSW
13332/1968.
ID: 31581 - Harold COLEFAX – born 6 Oct 1885, Moruya NSW
19239/1885. Died 28 July 1970, Bowral NSW 27699/1970. Married 27 Oct 1910,
Moruya NSW 12698/1910 to Patience Matilda CALDWELL (31569) – born 1886,
Bungendore NSW 16667/1886. Died 18 June 1949 NSW 7206/1949.
ID: 157938 – Florence Anna COLEFAX – born 2 Aug 1887, Moruya
NSW 20722/1887. Died 2 Sept 1982, Sydney NSW. Fornerly of Sussex Inlet NSW.
Buried: Ashes in Woronora General Cemetery, Sutherland NSW. Married 1933,
Woollahra NSW 12774/1933 to Roy Abraham COLEFAX – born 1889, Maclean NSW
18022/1889. Died 11 June 1953, Nowra NSW 11575/1953. Buried: Ashes in Woronora
General Cemetery, Sutherland NSW. Son of James Colefax & Elizabeth Baynton
Trape Juner.
ID 157941 – Herbert Rowland COLEFAX - born 15 May 1889,
Moruya NSW 20266/1889.(NB: Birth registered as Albert H. Colefax – 157939). Died
3 June 1953, Auburn NSW NSW 11735/1953. (NB: Trade: Builder)
Herbert and Albert are the same person.
ID: 157970 – Frederick George COLEFAX – born 25 Oct 1891,
Moruya NSW 22922/1891. Died 18 Oct 1961, NSW 25696
* * * * * * * * * *
ID: 164389 - Mary Ann WATERS – born 25 March 1856, Moruya
NSW. Died 18 Oct 1923, Moss Vale NSW 19862/1923. Buried Penrose Cemetery, NSW.
Dau to William Absolam Waters (148115) & Hannah Constable (148107).Married
22 Nov 1880, Sydney NSW to John GARBUTT. Died 1925, Moss Vale
NSW.
NB: Mary Ann Waters is the mother of Mary Gertrude Boot
Waters (164388).
ID: 164388 – Mary Gertrude Boot WATERS – had a daughter
before she was married whom she named:-
Rita WATERS – born 1900, Moss Vale NSW 24103/1900. Died 1962,
Wagga Wagga NSW 15681/1962. Married (registered as Rita Coppin) 1923, Moruya NSW
12654/1923 to Herbert Eilden VIDLER – born 1887, Crookwell NSW 14685/1887. Died
1969, Wagga Wagga NSW 32824/1969. Son of Stephen Eilden Vidler & Cornelia
Jane Greenstreet.
Stephen Eilden VIDLER – born 1850, NSW V18505894 121C/1850.
Died 1947, Crookwell NSW 18790/1947. Son of John Vidler & Mercy. Married
1870, Campbelltown NSW 2013/1870 to Cornelia Jane GREENSTREET – born 1848, NSW
V18482397 34A/1848. Died 1934, Crookwell NSW 10017/1934. Dau of Joseph
Greenstreet & Hannah Vidler. (NB: Joseph & Hannah married 1848, St
Peters Presbyterian Church, Campbelltown NSW V1845110 77/1845).
William John WATERS – born 10 June 1857, Moruya NSW. Died
1918, Liverpool NSW 12316/1918. Son to William Absolam Waters (9148115) &
Hannah Constable (148107). Married 1884, Berrima NSW 4251/1884 to Harriett
Elizabeth TILLEY - born 1866, Concord NSW 4135/1866. Died 1916, Moss Vale
NSW 11533/1916. Dau to Peter Tilley & Elizabeth Crittendon.
ID: 157759 - Henry WATERS (AKA Harry) – born 23 Aug 1871,
Moruya NSW 8479/1871. Died 6 April 1926, Moruya NSW. Accidently killed through a
work related incident at the Granite Quarry, Moruya NSW. Buried CE Section,
Moruya Cemetery NSW. Married 22 Nov 1904, Church of England, Moruya NSW
9440/1904 to Harriette JONES (157768) – born 19 July 1873, Tuross NSW 8437/1873.
(NB: birth registered as Harriet Britten). Died 21 July 1968, Moruya NSW
27580/1968. Buried CE Section, Moruya Cemetery NSW. Dau of Thomas Jones (150148)
& Sophia Amelia Noad (150149).
Children to Henry Waters (157759) and Harriette Jones
(157768).
ID: 171647 - Thekla Estelle WATERS - born 1906, Moruya
NSW 36590/1906. Married 1927, Sydney NSW 19/1927 to Arthur Ernest VANSTONE –
born 29 July 1891, Torpoint, Cornwall, England. Died 9 July 1941, aboard HMAS
Morsbey. Buried Rabaul, New Guinea. Memorial Plaque also in CE Section, Moruya
Cemetery NSW.
Rank: Unknown. Service No: 9813. Posting at Discharge. HMAS
Moresby. Royal Australian Navy. Served 12 Jan 1920 – Unknown.
WW2.
2nd Married: to Leslie Harry JEFFERY (171645) –
born 1907, Moruya NSW 37424/1907. Died 1976, NSW 201597/1976. Son of William
John Jeffery (166288) & Emily Louisa Arnett (166289).
Jeff Arthur Dale VANSTONE - born 29 Dec 1927, Moruya
NSW. Died 13 June 1998. Age 70 years. Late of Earlwood. Son to Arthur Ernest
Vanstone & Thekla Estelle Waters (171647). Married 1954, Petersham NSW
24133/1954 to Eileen Rose ABRAHAMS.
Rank: STOKER III. Service No: S/10064. Posting at Dishcharge:
HMAS Rushcutter. Royal Australian Navy. Served 1 Feb 1945 – 2 Jan 1947.
WW2.
Lynda Leonette WATERS – born 10 Aug 1915, Moruya NSW
40174/1915. Died 11 April 2001, Moruya NSW. Buried CE Section, Moruya Cemetery.
Married 1951, Auburn NSW 19612/1951 to Harold William LAMONT – born 20 Oct 1928.
Died 12 Aug 2005. Buried CE Section, Moruya Cemetery.
ID: 150149 – Sophia Amelia NOAD – born 21 Sept 1838 Yatton
Keynell, Wiltshire, England. Arr NSW 16 January 1859 per ‘Daphne’. Died 1 Oct
1896, Turlinjah NSW 14275/1896. (NB: death registered as Britten). Buried Moruya
Cemetery NSW. Dau of John Noad & Harriett Goodman. Married 1855, Wiltshire,
England to Richard BRITTEN – born 1832, Cairns, Wiltshire, England. Arr NSW 16
January 1859 per ‘Daphne’. Died 30 June 1914, Moruya NSW 13190/1914. (NB: death
registered as Britton). Son of John Britten & Ann Bishop.
(NB: Sophia had 3 children with her husband, Richard Britten.
Sophia went on to have a further 5 children with Thomas Jones, who conducted the
first Post Office at Turlinjah NSW. The five children’s surnames were registered
in various names of Noad, Britten and Jones. It appears that Thomas and Sophia
never married as Sophia’s death was registered as Sophia
Britten).
Children to Richard BRITTEN and Sophia Amelia NOAD
(150149).
ID: 168042 - John Andrew Noad BRITTEN – born Jan 1858,
Wiltshire, England. Arr NSW 16 January 1859 per ‘Daphne’. Died 23 June 1936,
Lakeview, Corunna NSW 14141/1936. Buried Methodist Section, Central Tilba
Cemetery, NSW. Married 10 Oct 1884, Marrickville NSW 2441/1884 to Sarah Ann
NEWMAN (168043) – born 4 July 1863, Moruya NSW 6427/1863. Died 27 March 1942,
Lakeview, Corunna NSW. Buried Methodist Section, Central Tilba Cemetery NSW. Dau
of Richard Newman & Ann Noad.
Harriett Ann BRITTEN – born 7 Jan 1860, Kiora NSW 5801/1860.
Died 19 Nov 1872 Tuross Lake NSW 3527/1872. Effects of sunstroke. Buried Moruya
Cemetery.
Elizabeth Georgina BRITTEN - born 2 Nov 1861, Moruya NSW
V18611288 161/1861. Died 1939, Marrickville NSW 4228/1939.
Children to Thomas JONES (150148) and Sophia Amelia NOAD
(150149).
ID: 63134 -Thomas JONES – born 16 Feb 1868, Tuross NSW
7650/1868. (Birth registered as Thomas NOAD). Died 10 April. 1953, Bodalla NSW
14830/1953. Married 1899, Cobargo NSW 7726/1899 to Lillian Susan LEWIS (63133) –
born 1875, Lilydale Monaro NSW 9557/1878. Died 20 Oct 1965 Moruya NSW
36546/1962. Dau of Richard Lewis (935) & Mary Jane Cole
(946).
Cybil JONES (AKA Cibbe) – born 19 Jan 1871, Tuross NSW
8392.
ID: 157768 - Harriette JONES – (NB: birth registered as
Harriet BRITTEN). Information above.
ID: 150147 - Sylvia JONES – born 25 Sept 1875, Turlinjah NSW
8881/1875. Died 1931, Bombala NSW 4732/1931. Married 17 May 1899, Araluen NSW
3777/1899 to Elias GOODSELL (150059) – born 1869, Braidwood NSW 8002/1869. (NB:
Birth registered as Elias GOODSON). Died 19 Dec 1955, Bombala NSW 6817/1956. Son
of John Goodsell (13723) & Rebecca HANFIELD (68466).
William Franklin JONES – born 15 March 1878, Turlinjah NSW
10101/1878. Died 4 May 1945, Taylors Arm NSW 7782/1945. Married 25 April 1905,
Eungui, NSW 4357/1905 to Emily Elizabeth CHANNELLS – born 1887, Nambucca River
NSW 26185/1887. Died 1969, Kempsey 36594/1969. Dau of William George Channells
& Eliza Elizabeth.
Clarence Albert CHESHER – born abt 1899. Died 23 July 1980,
Moruya NSW. Age 81 years. Son of Leopold James Chesher (157769) &
Annie Waters (157760). Married 1921, Moruya NSW 11552/1921 to Amy
Henrietta WINDLEY – born 1901, Moruya NSW 24073/1901. Died 3 Dec 1975, NSW
200097/1976. Dau to Ernest Roy Windley (67233) & Martha Susan Bellette
(116081).
ID: 67233 - Ernest Roy WINDLEY – born 1880 Brooman (reg:
Shoalhaven) 24378/1880. Died 13 June 1953, Moruya NSW 6607/1953. 1st Married 19
Dec 1899, Church of England, Moruya NSW 1619/1900 to Martha Susan BELLETTE
(116081) – born 10 Aug 1879 Wagonga NSW 10837/1879 (NB: birth registered as
Billett). Died 17 June 1912, Moruya NSW 6756/1912. Buried CE Section, Mogo
Cemetery.
Ronald Clarence CHESHER – born 6 July 1923, Moruya NSW. Son
of Clarence Albert Chesher & Amy Henrietta Windley. Married 1950, Moruya NSW
20887/1950 to Hesther Elizabeth VEITCH.
Rank: Gunner. Service No: NX108270 (N268446). Posting at
Discharge: 2/5 SURVEY BATTERY. Served from 22 Aug 1942 – 2 Dec 1946. Australian
Army Military Service. WW2.
Donald Francis CHESHER (AKA Cobber) – born 20 Jan 1920,
Moruya NSW.Died 8 Aug 2006 at Sir James Nursing Home, Dalmeny NSW. Age 86 years.
Son of Leopold James Chesher (157769) & Rubina Georgina Edsea
(157849).
Rank: Corporal. Service No: NX72228. Posting at Discharge:
2/3 AUSTRALIAN INFANTRY BATTALION. Australian Army Military Service. Served from
27 March 1941 – 3 July 1946. WW2.
Raymond Leopold CHESHER – born 4 Oct 1917, Moruya NSW. Son of
Leopold James Chesher (157769) & Rubina Georgina Edsea (157849). Married
1946, Moruya NSW 5016/1946 to Clare Isabel BROWN.
Rank: Private. Service No: NX66246. Posting at Discharge: HQ
1 AUST BEACH GP. Australian Army Military Service. Served from 5 Dec 1940 – 14
Jan 1946. WW2.
* * * * * * * * * *
ID: 137166 – Allan Henry STUBBS – Died 22 Sept 1969, Sydney
NSW. Age 64 years.
ID: 171590 – Sybil Mary STEWARD – born abt 1917. Died 1957,
Oberon 22882/1957. Age 40 years.
After a little bit of researching I think that maybe her
parents are Thomas Hayes (64875) & Anastasia Mary Steward (64888). It’s
possible that Anastasia may have been pregnant with Sybil when Thomas embarked
on his military service in 1917. Thomas returned from service in 1919, then
marrying Anastasia in 1920.
On Sybil’s death records her parents are listed as Thomas
& Stasia. What do you think ??.
ID: 171588 - Gordon Leith STUBBS (AKA Keith) – Died 19 April
1985. Late of Moruya NSW. Married 1936, Port Macquarie NSW 4762/1936 to Rita
Millicent BARKER.
Albert Edward STUBBS – born 1910, Moruya NSW 40687/1910. Died
1 July 1992. Late of Moruya NSW. Son of Charles Henry Stubbs (116751)
& May Magdaline Little (116744). Married 1934, Five Docks NSW 18350/1934 to
Elsie Vera HIRD.
ID: 133636 - Olga May STUBBS – born 13 Oct 1915, Moruya NSW
49658. Died 14 Sept 1993. Buried Shoalhaven Memorial Gardens & Lawn
Cemetery, Worrigee via Nowra NSW. Dau to Charles Henry Stubbs (116751) & May
Magdaline Little (116744).
ID: John Victor FILMER – Died 26 Oct 1992, Tuncurry NSW.
Formerly of Moruya NSW.
Children of John Victor Filmer (133631) & Olga May Stubbs
(133636).
Richard John FILMER – Died 1958, Nowra NSW
13819/1958.
Denis Victor FILMER – born abt 1939/1940. Died July 1959,
Nowra NSW 20324/1959. Age 19 years.
ID: 116743 – Robert James LITTLE – I have found no concrete
evidence to think that he married Mary J. Burke (89370) in 1881. In 1881 Robert
and Ann were still in the process of completing their family with the birth of
William Johnson in 1881and May Magdaline in 1883. His obituary mentions his
marriage to Miss Annie Constable. There is no mention of any other wives.
Ann’s obituary says that after she married Robert Little, they took up residence
at Dwyers Creek, Moruya where they lived for the next 60 years. Both Robert and
Ann’s obituaries state that they were both buried in the CE Section, Moruya
Cemetery. I haven’t located any headstones for them but I assumed they were
buried together.
A correction needs to be made for the D.O.D. of Frederick
Austin CONSTABLE (157882). I haven’t found anything relating to his death yet,
but I would gather that he is probably no longer with us. The date which is
currently on the database belongs to Frederick Athol CONSTABLE – born Forbes NSW
49067/1914. Died 16 July 1995, Forbes NSW. Son of Herbert A. Constable and
Florence M. Riley.
I think this will do for the time being. Regards, Cathrine
Constable.
Hi
Catherine,
Thank you very much, your
help has been enormous and is greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Ian
From: Pam Grover
Sent: Saturday, 13 February 2010 10:11
AM
Subject: Re. Family of Albert Edward Shannon
Hi Ian,
Just came across the Monaro Pioneer website and had a great
time looking up our family. Amazed to find our Jewish heritage... we always
assumed Shannon was Irish!
We can help with more information if you are
interested.
56. Albert Edward
Shannon (Lewis4, Israel Laurence Lewis 3, Jacob Lawrence2,
Isaac1) was born in 1884 in Bombala, NSW214 and died in
1968 in Newtown, NSW215 at age 84.
Another name for Albert was Bert.
Albert married Elizabeth E. Jose, daughter of John
Benjamin Jose and Selina Warne, in 1919 in Cooma, NSW.534 Elizabeth
was born in 1898 in Cooma, NSW.535Another name for
Elizabeth was Bessie.
M i. Laurence Edward
Shannon was born on August 17, 1920 in Cooma, NSW and died on July 15, 2001
in Hammondville, NSW at age 80.
My mother Edith Fay Shannon (now 87) is sitting next to me as
I write this. She tells me that her mother's name was Elizabeth
Eliza.
My daughter and I took my mum back to Cooma a few years ago
and had a great time finding relatives on head stones and church windows. My mum
says her dad owned the picture theatre in Cooma, but had to sell it when the
depression hit. The Cooma history book we bought seems to say other than
this.
Re. your website...
Albert Shannon and Elizabeth Jose had 5 children
altogether:
Laurie Shannnon (as above)
Edith Fay Shannon (known as Fay) Born 1922 Living Married Ron
Gettens (died 23.2.1969) then Allan O'Regan (died 30.5.1995)
Barbara Shannon Born 1924 Living
Francis E (Frank) Shannon Born next, but died at 4 months
1926
Enid Ruth (known as Ruth) Born 1933 (?) Living
Also Laurie and Joan Shannon had 4 children, not 5. Their
first daughter was Rosalie Diane Shannon - she went by Diane as a child, then
changed to Rosalie. Your records have her as 2 separate people. Joan is still
living. Do you want further information on the next generation of children?
Thanks for the great site - really fascinating!
Regards, Pam
Hi
Pam,
Thanks for the information, I
have updated our website and database. We would be very grateful for any
additional information you can provide.
Regards,
Ian
From: Cathy Nagy
Sent: Saturday, 13 February 2010 8:51
AM
Subject: Fw: DESCENDANTS OF THOMAS AKERS
Dear Ian,
I am writing in regards to the following entry on the Monaro
Pioneers website:
248. Matilda Maude
Blyton (Jeremiah Blyton4, Eliza Jane Smith3, Sophia Akers2, Thomas1)
was born on August 17, 1883 in Cooma, NSW1161 and died in
1955 in Paddington, NSW1162 at age 72.
Matilda married Henry Tiernan Mason, son of William Mason and
Charlotte, on March 25, 1902 in St. Barnabas' Church, Sydney, NSW.3851 Henry was born
on March 25, 1881 in Sydney, NSW and died in 1939 in Canterbury, NSW3852 at age 58.
I am Matilda Maud's Great Granddaughter, and would like to
correct some of the information above. I have Matilda Maud's birth certificate
stating her date of birth as 17 July 1883 in Woolway NSW and that her name was
Matilda Maud (no e)
I also have Matilda Maud's marriage certificate stating she
married Henry TUDOR Mason (son of Henry Mason and Martha Skinner) born in
London, England on 25 March 1881. Henry Tudor Mason came to Australia on
board the "Potosi" in 1882 with his family as free settlers. Henry Tudor
Mason died in the Bronx, New York USA in July 1967
Further, I would like to add that the wife of their child,
Marcus Ashby Tudor Mason ie, Mona Doreen Fitzsimons died 16 June 2000 at
Chatswood (I am their granddaughter!). Also, their place of marriage was St
Marthas Church Strathfield, NOT Burwood.
I would really appreciate these details being updated, as I
do refer some family members to your fantastic site and it is disconcerting to
see obvious errors!!!
Thank you, Regards, Cathy Nagy
Hi
Cathy,
Thank you for the
information, the website has now been rectified.
Regards,
Ian
From: Paulson
Sent: Friday, 12 February 2010 9:58 PM
Subject: Looking for info about Dawson family from
Bega
Hi Ian,
My name is Paul Dawson and I would like to contact anyone who
might be able to provide any information re my Great Grandfather Thomas Wilson
Dawson and Great Great Grandfather John Dawson who were in the Bega area during
the mid 1800's.
The only information I have is that John was a
Storekeeper/Farmer and Thomas was drowned in the Bega River 9/5/1871. They may
have come from Nova Scotia around 1859.
Also, if anyone in the Tindall family would like to contact
me via email I can provide more info about the descendants of Jessie Adeline
Tindall as she was my paternal Grandmother. Thanks. Regards, Paul
Dawson
Hi
Paul,
We don't have any specific
contacts for the Dawson information we have in our database unfortunately.
If there is any other information about this family you can provide I will
happily add a new index entry. The known contacts for the Tindall family are
listed on the Daniel Tindall web page on our site. Could you please supply me
with the descendant information for Jessie Adeline Tindall so that I may add you
as another contact for the Tindall Family?
Regards,
Ian
From: rondazz
Sent: Friday, 12 February 2010 2:43
PM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers project - Pioneers & Settlers Data
Base
Hello – I have been perusing your web site – it is very good
and obviously has encompassed a lot of time by all concerned.
I have noticed a number of errors and will collate and
bring to your attention at some other time. However, I have several which
I wish to bring to your attention now, in hope that same can be amended on your
site.
ID I16878 – George Robert Seymour (my wife’s
grandfather).
His correct date of
birth is 15th September 1876. His correct date of death was – 31st
December 1962. Place of death – Lutheran Rest Home, Toowoomba, Queensland.
Place of burial – Geham (Cabarlah) cemetery.
His wife – Lizzie
Victoria Mayfield Brabin was born in Junee, New South Wales – Not Gundagai.
Place of marriage was Eurongilly via Junee – Not Gundagai.
Her date of death was 27th August 1954. Place of Death – General Hospital, Crows
Nest, Queensland. Place of burial – Geham (Cabarlah) cemetery.
ID I 52723 – James Reid – These details - ·
Birth: 1795 in Limbrey, Antrim, Ireland
· Baptism: 1798 Antrim, Ireland
· Death: 24 Aug 1851 in NSW
1 This is
incorrect as these details are applicable to his son, Robert. Your site
shows the details under the names of James (Father) & Robert
(son)
ID I17068 – Margaret Hamilton – Correct date of birth – 18th
August 1856. Correct place of birth is - Shepherds Paddock, Redfern, Sydney, New
South Wales
Place of death was - Eurongilly, via Junee, New South Wales on 7th July
1903.
Correct place of marriage was - St. Paul's Anglican Church,
Nangus, New South Wales on 4th July 1878. Her parents were Matthew
Hamilton & Margaret Hastie.
ID I61946 – Joseph Searle – He is shown as being married to
Martha Searle – Her maiden name is actually Merriman
ID 10790 – Rebecca Margaret Seymour - Her name is
actually Rebecca (Margaret) Ryan
Rebecca was christened on 18th October 1827 at St. Peter's,
Campbelltown, New South Wales. She was re-baptised as Margaret by her mother
because she,(her mother) was living in sin. Her father, William Ryan was not
married to her mother, Mary Seymour (nee Higgins).
Regards, Ron Pentecost.
Hi
Ron,
Thank you for the
information.
Regards,
Ian
From: Greg McGrath
Sent: Thursday, 11 February 2010 9:52 AM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers - Additional
Information
Ian
Thanks for the great work on the website. Both my mother's
family and part of my wife's family are from the Monaro so we find it great to
be able to look up information from time to time. My mother is Mary Daphne Welch
the only listed child on your website of Claude Leslie Royston Welch and Cecily
May Reid. Claude is No 13 on your site in the line of John Daniel Welch. Apart
from my mother, Mary Daphne, Claude and Cecily had another child, Alfred Gregory
who was born in Adaminaby on the 5th March 1921 and died in Sydney 1982. I
thought that you might like to add Alfred Welch to your website. Also, I have
all the details of Alfred's children and grandchildren, the next generations if
you wish.
Regards and thanks once again. Greg McGrath
Hi
Greg,
Thanks for the information, I
would be delighted to add the information on Alfred's family to our database,
just be aware that we do not publish any details other than name for individuals
known to be living.
Regards,
Ian
From: Barry & Margaret
Sent: 2010-02-13
07:57
Subject: Brown Mountain plaque
Dear David
The attached article was recently published in the Bega
District News & the Cooma Monaro Express. Would you be so kind as to
include it in your newsletter & on the Monaro Pioneers
website.
I will forward photos separately.
Kind regards, Margaret Parker
Following on from a family reunion of the Green/Alcock
families held in Nimmitabel & Bemboka in March 2008 it was decided to
recognise the achievements of four pioneers of the Monaro (Kybeyan
NSW).
With funds raised during the reunion it was agreed to
erect a bronze plaque in their memory. With the assistance of NPWS who
generously donated their time, they placed the plaque last week(22/01/2010) at
Fred Piper’s Lookout on the Brown Mountain. The plaque is in recognition of the
efforts of these four pioneers of the Monaro who paved the way for what is now
the Snowy Mountains Highway from Nimmitabel to the foot of the Brown Mountain.
The spelling of Nimitybelle was correct in those days & further research
revealed the J Trigell to be John Trigell.
I have photographed the plaque in situ & will
forward it separately.
This is an extract of the event taken from an article
reported in a Bega newspaper in 1857.
‘the Nimitybelle folk subscribed a sum of 100 pounds as a
reward to the man who could find and mark a track on which a horse might be
safely led from the tablelands to the foot of the Brown mountain. Four
venturesome young men took up the challenge; J Trigell, Arthur Alcock, James
Green and Joseph Hammond….. The party succeeded in marking a line, nine miles
down from Nimitybelle, or from Pole Flat to Stoney Pinch, near the lake where
Irwin’s Mill now stands and for about thirteen miles upwards… at this stage they
ran out of water and provisions. They eventually struck the river at the foot of
the mountain near Nelson’s Flat. They were in an exhausted condition and their
clothes were torn to shreds.’
James Green was my great grandfather.
Margaret Parker
Thanks for the information Margaret, I’ll ensure that your
article/photos are included in the next Newsletter. I have also forwarded to Ian
so he can update the website.
Rgds, David Knox
Hi
David,
The material and photos are
now up on the site and accessible via the "Towns" link on the home
page.....
http://www.monaropioneers.com/Brown-Mountain.htm
Regards,
Ian
From: Cheryl Areke
Date: 3/02/2010 7:30:18 PM
Subject: Monaro Site
Hi Pattrick
I have been researching the York family history and found one
of your sites on 'Billilingera' with the attached comments that should not be
assumed.
BILLILINGERA
Contributed by Jen Swales <janese-at-bigpond.com>
09.10.06
Billilingera Station.
1848-1850…In Hancock’s lists.
Billy Linpepa (sic) Cosgrove and York were non-residents of
the property. Had a good many sheep but no cattle..
If the York’s and Cosgrove were not living there, shepherds
or a manager would have been settled there to look after their interests. I
wonder how many great cattle runs in Australia were run by overseers and
shepherds who were most likely ticket of leave men. All the glory going to the
owner, I guess that is the difference between the classes of rich and
poor.
I object to this assumption and would like to clarify this
comment. 'All the glory going to the owner, I guess that is the difference
between the classes of rich and poor.'
Charles York was born on the convict ship William Pitt to
convict Mary York. His older brother Henry was transported as a convict on the
Fame 11 years later. Mary York married William Cosgrove when she arrived in
Australia (note they were both convicts). William Cosgrove who became a settler
at South Creek, Sydney and was a guide to Governor Macquarie and was appointed
Chief Constable but was killed by bushrangers soon after. He left Mary 1000
pounds which is assumed was used for the expedition by Henry and
Charles York and John Cosgrove to the Monaro in 1829.
Henry York and John Cosgrove lived in the Monaro district for
many years and managed many stations. Henry York only went back to Sydney after
his wife dies in a fire in Adaminaby.
As you can see the comment that they were 'rich' should
not be assumed. There was many family tragedies and they worked hard to arrive
where they were. I am stongly offended by this type of comment.
regards Cheryl Areke (nee York)
Hi
Jen,
Do you want to sort this out
or would you prefer we did it?
Regards, Pattrick
Mould
From: Robyn Atherton
Date: 02/03/10 15:05:48
Subject: information
Hello Pattrick.
I have been assisting Ann McIntyre with research regarding
the ancestors of Edward McIntyre who was married to Maria King. His mother
Bridget's death was registered in Cooma in 1878 and I wondered if she was buried
in Cooma. I think her husband James died in Sydney before she came to live in
Cooma.
Robyn
Hi
Robyn,
Sorry, we have no information
on a Bridget McIntyre being buried in Cooma in 1878. The information we have in
our database shows Edward McIntyre's parents as Edward James McIntyre (b
1826 Dalgety, Fife, Scotland d 1894 Liverpool, NSW) and Bridget Galaher (d 1895
Redfern, NSW) . If you have more accurate information we would be
very grateful if you could assist us to correct our
database.
Regards,
Ian
From: Janice Doughty
Sent: Wednesday, 10 February 2010
8:01 AM
Subject: DAY FAMILY
Good morning John,
I came across your email on the Monara Pioneers Website,
regarding the Day family.
I have been contacted by I believe is a descendant of this
family Anthony Day. He came across and story I had posted to one of the
Rootsweb List about a convict by the name of Evan Brindle. I carried out
the Brindle research on behalf of a work mate, Wayne Brindle. Anthony
was very interested in this story as a daughter of convict Evan Brindle and his
wife Lucy Walker, Lucy Ann Brindle married William Day in 1880 in Muswellbrook.
He provide this information to assist me to get back further into the Day
family.
Anthony's father was Colin Lawrence Day, his father was
William Lawrence Day and his father was Albert Lawrence Day (born
1880) and his parents were William and Lucy Ann Day (nee
Brindle).
I then began to work backwards from there and found the
parents of William Day born 1852 were James and Mary Ann Day (nee
Harmer).
The parents of James Day born 1827, were Thomas Day and
Susannah Stubbs, who married in 1816 at St Phillip's C of E on Church Hill,
Sydney.
Thomas Day was a shipwright and lived with his family in Kent
Street in Sydney Town. Thomas Day was born to Thomas Day and Mary Clayton
in 1795. Thomas and Mary Clayton were married in 1790.
I find that Mary Clayton was tried at the Old Bailey on 2nd
April 1788 and sentenced to 7 years transportation and arrived on the Lady
Juliana (the story of this voyage is written about in the book "The
Floating Brothel" by Sian Rees). However, I cannot find when Thomas Day
arrived. I have found some mention of a Thomas Day on the Colonial
Secretary Index 1788-1825, however not sure which one he is. Was he a
convict or was he a soldier?
I hope I have the family correct and if you can help me out
with Thomas Day Snr, the husband of Mary Clayton, I would be very
grateful. I look forward to hearing from you.
Thank you, Regards, Janice
Belrose - Sydney
Hi
Janice,
I am confused as to who you
are directing your email request too? Is it me or "John"? If it is
John, then in order for us to be able to connect you with him you will have to
supply the page link address where you found his email so that we can then
determine which person is involved. We get hundreds of these emails and
your description is insufficient for me to identify who it is your referring
too.
Unfortunately, we have no
information that might assist you.
Regards,
Ian
From: Barbara Adams
Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2010 2:40
PM
Subject: Re correction
Hi Ian, If you wouldn't mind taking at a peek at Mary
Kathleen Nickle's ( Jack Britten) real death date please.
if she is Jack's wife, then I know she was alive in early
1970's as she made me tea and scones, on a visit down the coast, I remember
coming back and promptly sending a gift of a pair of fur lined boots as the lino
was lifting off the floor every time the wind blew, and let me tell you they
were a hardy old pair, we couldn't feel many of our moving parts when we left
that old farmhouse, and to them it was just a wee bit on the cool
side
anyway according to Col see below.
all best, Barbara
Hi Barbara, it would appear that the information on Mary
Kathleen Britten's (nee Nickle) death date is incorrect. I had a
quick look at NSW BDM index and could not find her passing in Bega in
1952. On the Ryerson Index, there is a Kathleen Mary Britten Death
24 Jul 1996 (late of Mt Ousley) Sydney Morning Herald, this may be
her. I have also attached the 1954 Electoral Roll for Bega which
shows she was still alive then. Her address is different from her
husband's, maybe one was the farm and the other the family house.
This is also the case with William Blaxter Britten and his wife Dulcie
Jean. Will keep looking
Regards, Col Blaxter
Dear Ian,
Hope you are not drowned out with all the
rain,
I have a bit more family information to be added to the
Joshua Britten page please
I can also provide some basic info on the Blaxter family
which I will forward under separate cover,
for some reason I had it in the old grey cells that you have
the Blaxters, hidden somewhere, and I thought I had seen, but on receiving
this new info I searched and couldn't find them. You don't have a page for
them Fairly well hidden if you do have them.
Anyway, thought I had better pass on, I have his
permission.
All my best, Barbara:
Colin Blaxter was in touch with me and has given me further
information on the family of William and Catherine
Jack Royden Britten b.28 Dec 1904 Bega / m. 1943
Bega / d. 5 Oct 2006 / sp Mary Kathleen Nickle
Olive Clair Britten b.1907 Bega / m. 1928 Randwick / d ? /
sp. Francis D Ryan
William Blaxter Britten b. 13 Mar 1908 / m. 1926 Bega / d. 1
Feb 1974 ? /sp. Eva Janet Ball
Rodney Alan Britten (Ronnie) b. 1909 Bega / m. 1940 Eden / d.
9 Jul 1985 West Kempsey / sp. Edith Cavell Clarke
Joy Britten b. ? / never married / d. 1922
Bega
Clifford Thomas Britten b. 8 Dec 1916 Bega / m. 1941 Bega /
d. ? / sp. Dulcie June Moon
I have added info on Joseph, who was a convict, and will
forward that to you.
All best, Barbara
Joseph Blaxter b. abt 1828 Norwich, Norfolk, UK / m.
30 May 1864 Eden / d. 25 Apr 1901 Eden
sp. Mary Ann Maria Stone.
children:
Rachael Louisa b. 27 Feb 1866 Eden / m. 1900 Sydney /
d. 30 Mar 1936 Clovelly / sp. John Harris
Hannah Maria b. 1867 Eden / m. 30 Aug 1885 Eden / d.
1922 New Plymouth NZ / sp. George Lascelles Coombe.
Mary Ann Rebecca b. 26 Aug 1869 Eden / m. 1893
Eden / d. Wigan, England ? / sp. Isaac Heaton
Joseph Henry John b. 26 Sep 1871Eden / m. 6 Apr 1896
Sydney / d. 1 Sep 1941 Wollongong
sp. Isabella Steele
Eliza Jane b. 1873 Eden / m. 15 Feb 1896 Eden /
d. ? / sp. John D. Walsh
Ernest George Blaxter b. 20 Apr 1876 Eden / m. 28 Dec
1904 Bombala / d. 27 Oct 1939 Pambula
sp. Mary Ann Ulrich
Caroline Margaret b. 1879 Eden / m. 23 Mar 1904
Cooper's Gully / d. 22 Jun 1955 Bega / sp. William Britten
Violet Priscilla b. 1882 Eden / never married / d. 1
Apr 1907 Eden
Victoria Alberta b. 1 Jun 1884 Eden / m. 1902 Eden /
d. 2 Dec 1949 Kyogle / sp. Charles Robert Robinson
If you require any further information please let me
know
Regards Col Blaxter
As for Caroline Margaret, she was the seventh child of
nine of Joseph Blaxter and Mary Ann Maria Stone m. 1864. Joseph was
a convict and was transported to Van Dieman's land in 1850. His
father and mother were Joseph Blaxter and Hannah Guyton. Joseph, the
father, served in the Royal Marines and died in the Naval Hospital at Greenwich
in London.
Will log on to old bailey and see if I can find details of
the crime and forward you...seems he hightailed it to Eden fairly early in the
peace.
All best, Barbara
Hi
Barbara,
Thanks for the information, I
have updated the Britten page. We did have a lot of information on the
Blaxter family in the database but now I think it is "complete" and have added
an index entry for Joseph Blaxter. Please supply Colin's email address
(with his permission of course) so that he may be properly represented as a
contributor contact on the Blaxter page.
Regards,
Ian
From: John Quessy
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 11:17 PM
Subject: Re Rixon
I came across the Monaro Pioneers website by accident and can
add to the family tree of at least one descendant. Your number 52 James McGrath
had 8
children the 7th Margaret Anastasia was my grandmother. She
married my grandfather Frederick Eugene Joseph QUESSY in 1925. They had 2
children
Marie & Noel. Marie had 3 children (2 natural) Noel had 9
children. I am the second of them. I am currently researching the various
aspects of my own
family. Are the details of Margaret Anastasia's descendants
of interest to you?
John Quessy
EPPING NSW
Hi
John,
Yes we would very interested
in any further information you could add.
Regards,
Ian
From: Mary Nicholls
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 12:56
PM
Subject: Peasley/Crawford
On Sunday, 3 January, 2010, Robyn Croft sent a query to you
regarding Emily Elizabeth Peasley (daughter of William Peisley and Ganey
Gander). Robyn was unable to find her death recorded. I went to your
Alexander Crawford Family Tree, and under 36. Edward Alexander
Crawford , I found the story of Emily's relationship with Edward
Crawford. From there it appears that she met up with Mr Higgins. I
found the death of Emily Elizabeth Higgins, 26123/1946 HIGGINS Emily Elizabeth,
Parents William and Gainey, at Auburn.
I found her death notice in the Sydney Morning Herald, on the
26 November 1946, which states she died on 24 November 1946, her husband as
Frank Higgins and her address as 34 Simpson Streeet, Auburn.
Please pass this email on to Robyn Croft,
thanks.
From Mary Nicholls
Dear Ian,
A bit more on my previous email, info for Robyn
Croft.
I added Emily Higgins children's names into the
search field in the SMH of 26.11.1946 and I found the names of the following
children listed in Emily Higgins death notice:
loved mother of Jessie Blanche Norman Ron.
This all ties back to the names mentioned for Edward
Alexander Crawford (born 1864 Cooma), on the Monaro Pioneers Website, in his
relationship with Emily Elizabeth Peasley. I am happy for you to pass on my
email and contact details to Robyn Croft.
Bye for now, Mary Nicholls
|
From: Leonie & Brian Wood I am trying to trace my g grandmother, namely Elizabeth
Kirk b abt 1860 who according to marraige and death certificates
was born in Cooma area. Her birth is not listed on NSW BDM and her
parents are not named on marraige certificate. I feel that there
could be a connection to your pioneer family of Alexander Kirk as her only
son was named Hugh Alexander (Hugh being paternal grandfather) I
wondered about Fanny Kirk maybe she changed her name to Elizabeth as I can
find no further trace of Fanny. I am going to be touring in the Cooma area in March and
would welcome any suggestions you may have as to where I should look for
any relative info. Are there any schools in the area that would have
records relating to 1865 - 1875 period? I would appreciate any help or
suggestions you may have. With thanks, Leonie
Wood |
Hi
Leonie,
I personally have no
knowledge of any information that might assist you but I think you should try
the Mitchell Library in Sydney or the State Records Office in Kingswood.
Pattrick, perhaps you might be able to suggest some better options?
Your ggrandmother is most likely Betsy Kirk
(b1865) as "Betsy" was a common nickname or alternative for Elizabeth.
If you would like to send me the details of Elizabeth Kirk and family I
will try to help you as best I can. Alexander Kirk married Mary
Goulding according to the shipping records, his parents being John and Elizabeth
and Mary's parents being Alexander and Mary.
Regards,
Ian
No, I think you are on the
right track, you need to just keep looking for places where she could be listed
- Bdm's, Certificates, Family Forums, Cemeteries, Honour Rolls, Index's, Census,
Schools (Dept), newspapers, Passenger Lists etc etc etc and try different
names
Regards, Pattrick
Mould
|
From: Leonie & Brian Wood Thank you Ian for your reply. I am going to
be in the Cooma area in a few weeks time and would appreciate if you could
direct me to where I might find school records or similar. The
details for Elizabeth Kirk that I have are: Born :. Cooma ABT 1860 according to marraige
cert. Married: James Nelson in Leichart Sydney
March 1884. Aged 23 Daaughter born: Redfern Sydney 1885
- Ida Daughter born Sydney
1887 - Amy Son born Sydney 1890- Alexander
Hugh Family moved to Broken Hill early 1890's and then moved
to New Zealand mid 1890s She died in . NZ 1935 Death
cert also states born in Cooma NSW. Both daughters birth certs state
mother born in Cooma, sons birth cert states Bega. I have considered that Betsy, daughter of Alexander and
Mary could be my Elizabeth, but age is several years different. Have
you any suggestions as to how I could prove if this is the Elizabeth I am
trying to trace? I would appreciate any help you could give me and
thank you for your time. With regards, Leonie Wood Hi
Leonie, I don't think you will
find any facilities in Cooma that will assist you, I would try the State
Records office in Kingswood first. Regards,
Ian |
From: Lal
Sent: Sunday, 7 February 2010 7:04
PM
Subject: Kellond Family Tree
Hello just googled my husbands family tree as I do on
occasion to see if any updates and on going through his grandfather's record as
listed in teh Cooma Pioneers found a few things wrong. My husband is Charles
William Vider - 1/9/38 - mother Eileen Edith Kellond one of 7 daughters born to
Barbara Beileiter and William Kellond. Daughters - Eileen,
Clarry,Grace,Pat,Linda,Phil and Marie. They are all gone now but descendants
live on. We have more extensive information relating to this if you need to
contact me on this email.
Larraine Dawn Vider Queensland
his father Charles Bede Vider
Hi
Larraine,
Thank you for letting us
know, we would be very grateful if you could supply the details to enable us to
complete the family tree of William and Barbara
Kellond.
Regards,
Ian
From: Beryl Snowden
Sent: Sunday, 7 February 2010 6:24
PM
Subject: Corrections Please!
Dear Ian / David
Attached is a copy of corrections which need to be addressed
when you have a minute to spare please. (see page 2) They refer to Thomas
VENABLES , Robert BRITT and Robert LOVELOCK pages.
Many thanks, Beryl Snowden
Hi
Beryl,
The corrections have been
made.
Regards,
Ian
From: Beryl Snowden
Sent: Monday, 8 February 2010 2:14
PM
Subject: Re: Corrections Please!
Thank you Ian...looks much better .and quick too!
Lovely!
Beryl
From: Barbara Sharkey
Sent: Saturday, 6 February 2010 5:51
PM
Subject: James Cole
Hello Ian
I have just spent a wonderful couple of hours on the Monaro
Pioneers website.
I am researching my great grandfather, James Cole
(1849-1931). I understand that he was living in the Nimmitabel area and working
at an abattoir before he was brought to Sydney where he died. Would there
be any information on abattoirsin the area. He also took bullock teams down
Browns Mountain.
Thank you, Barbara Sharkey
Hi
Barbara,
Sorry, we have no information
as yet on any abattoirs in the Nimmitabel area. Your Grandfather is not
known to us either, was he born in the area?
Regards,
Ian
From: Gloria Sheehan
Sent: Friday, 5 February 2010 10:06
AM
Subject: Correction to Monaro Pioneers
Hello Ian
I was recently contacted by a Fred Sheehan of Bega and during
the course of our correspondence, picked up an error for one of the people in
your database.
Your entry shows:
Daniel Albert Sheehan, son of Daniel Sheehan and Anne
Elizabeth Brown, in 1911 in Bega, NSW.3269 Daniel was born
on July 26, 1883 in Bega, NSW3270 and died in
1934 in Bega, NSW3271 at age 51.
Daniel married Stella Brown in Bega in 1911 and one of their
children, William Henry Sheehan (1914-2001) was my husband’s stepfather.
We know for a fact that Daniel Albert Sheehan was still alive in 1960 and, since
I only started researching Pop Sheehan’s tree a couple of years ago and don’t
have all certificates, the following death registration is most likely
his:
|
16921/1967 |
SHEEHAN |
DANIEL ALBERT |
DANIEL DENNS |
ANNIE |
MORUYA |
To clarify, the Daniel A Sheehan who died in 1934 is not he
but did have similar parents, Daniel and Annie M, also in Bega. They
appear to have been married in Eden (near Bega) in 1997 and Annie’s maiden name
was Smith (not brown) :
|
7566/1897 |
SHEEHAN |
DANIEL |
SMITH |
ANNIE M |
EDEN |
Their son (the one who died in 1934) was born in
1899:
Birth:
|
1425/1899 |
SHEEHAN |
DANIEL A |
DANIEL |
ANNIE M |
BEGA |
Death:
|
18154/1934 |
SHEEHAN |
DANIEL A |
DANIEL |
ANNIE M |
BEGA |
If there is someone else I should contact regarding this,
please let me know as I would be happy to do so.
Regards, Gloria Sheehan
Hi
Gloria,
Thank you for the
information, I have corrected our records.
Regards,
Ian
Subject: RE: MONARO PIONEERS NEWSLETTER -
January 2010 Edition
From: "JANESE SWALES"
Date: Wed, February 3, 2010 9:18
pm
Hullo David and Ian.
Is it possible to find out who contributed certain
information to the Rootsweb's World site, regarding the Monaro
Pioneers.
I ask this simply because I have discovered a great deal of
information on 5 of my direct lines. If only it was all correct. In fact so much
of it is
either guess work or straight from the BDM site. Without
obtaining certificates, I don't see how anyone can put this information online.
I am
concerned that any researcher looking for these families and
taking what is written as gospel, will certainly be up that
creek!
I have travelled extensively and visited a great many
depositories for family information, amassed over 600 certificates, from around
the world,
thousands of photos of graves, found many cousins, all for
the sake of my own need to do family history.
I am certainly not ungrateful for any information that I
find, especially if I do not have it, and I willingly share. I have a great many
people contact me regarding the photos I have of Bredbo and Billilingera on the
Monaro site. Some who have been related, others not, all asking for copies or
help, which I have given happily. So I am not a grouch. I just thought I should
make that clear.
I know the easiest thing to do would be to send you the
correct information, but I am curious of whom else is researching my family. I
have checked with two other cousins, both have not put any family information
online. Both are as interested as I am as to where the information came
from.
The families are.
BENNETT/GILLIGAN/KENNEDY/MARTIN/RICHARDSON/AY YET/ . I am directly and
indirectly related to over 50 families from the Monaro.
Warm regards Jen Swales.
Hi
Jen,
I am unable to locate the
families to which you refer without more specific detail unfortunately. We
have so many families with those surnames.
When we have a family listed
on our Pioneers index which has been specifically contributed in full or in part
by someone, we list that person as the contributor and potential contact for any
one reading those pages.
Not all the families in our
database have a Pioneers Index entry though; and some of the Pioneers Index
entries have been generated from the database information without any identified
contributor.
The information contained in
the database has come from family submissions over the years and research by our
team. We specifically encourage anyone using our information to do their
own validation of the details to ensure correctness as we have no direct control
over the accuracy of the information supplied. We have however,
endeavoured where ever possible to list the BDM index reference as a source
entry to provide a simple (but no
infallible) validation
process plus a convenient means for each researcher to acquire certificates for
verification where necessary.
Any date shown as just year
only with no day and month is a clear indication that further detailed research
is needed by any one using our information. The year is usually the year of
registration, and the place being the registration district. Obviously,
the dates could and are often incorrect as registrations may have occurred some
time after the event and the place of course is usually a major centre whereas
the event may taken place in a small hamlet of village near
by.
Yes, I am sure there has been
guess work in many instances, but who amongst the vast army of family
researchers has not "guessed" connections at some stage of their
research.
The success of our project
has been the ready willingness of the hundreds of people who have contributed
original and/or correctional information. Yes we may be displaying some
information that is incorrect (but not deliberately), but if by displaying it we
encourage people to contribute the right information our project continues to
grow. Our database on Rootsweb is the same, we have information that may
be incorrect but seek input to help rectify that.
The Pioneers Index is not
complete and we need help to identify those families that should also be listed
there. The index is not just confined to the earliest Pioneers but
includes subsequent settlers as well.
If any of the families to
which you refer should be included please let me know. It would be
wonderful if we could have at least one contributor contact on each index page,
the more the better. If there are errors and you can help us to correct
same we would be very grateful.
Finally, if you can help me
to specifically identify the start ancestor of the families you mention I will
be able to more clearly determine if we have received a specific contribution or
whether the information has come in whole or in part as part of some other
family submission. Quite often, we receive bits of families and have been
able to make connections to create "more" complete
families.
As you probably already know,
where information and/or images has been received and can be clearly attributed
to someone's generosity, we do so.
I do hope you will help us to
rectify the errors you have detected.
Best regards, Ian
Harvey
From: Shirley
Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 11:45
PM
Subject: ralphs
|
Hello Ian, I submitted the Ralphs and would like to add another
son of Charles and Honorah, Thomas David born 9-11-1910 died
1-1-1995 married Irene Edith Lewis 27-5-1935 born 1917
died 17-9-1988 thanking you Shirley
Barrette
|
Hi
Shirley,
Thank you for the
information, I have updated our database and website.
Regards,
Ian
From: Sad Mushroom
Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 2:38
PM
Subject: RE: James WILTON newsletter
From: Terry Smith
Sent: Wednesday, 6 January 2010 4:49
PM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers - Info on James Wilton
Hi,
Under the pioneer ‘Duncan Davidson’, there is some
information about his daughter Margaret Webster Davidson (and her husband James
Wilton). It says that they had a hotel at Captains Flat. I’ve been researching
James Wilton and have found out that he owned the Pioneer hotel in Forbes (1861
– 1862). He also owned the Harrow Inn near Goulburn (1865 – 1869). He moved to
Bemboka in 1869 where he became a farmer. I can’t seem to find any evidence that
he owned a hotel in Captains Flat. Is there any evidence regarding the Captains
Flat hotel?
Thanks, Terry Smith
****************
From SMH Saturday 24th July, 1926
BEMBOKA PIONEER'S DEATH.
BEGA, Frlday..
Mr. James Wilton, senior, the oldest pioneer of the Bemboka
district, has died in his 92nd year. He Is survived by Mrs. Wilton and a large
grown-up family and many grandchildren. In the early days Mr. Wilton kept a
hotel at Lambing Flat during the time of the riots
*****************
Maybe there was a misunderstanding between Lambing FLAT and
Captains FLAT???
On Friday I will look up Liquor Licences and Hotel
Owners, as I have lent my stuff out and it will be returned tomorrow
night.
Kellie
From: Patricia Marsh
Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2010 10:16
AM
Subject: Carberry family
Hi Ian
Firstly I would like to express my gratitude for
all the work put into the website. As a lover of Australian history and
sharing with my now extremely large family the knowledge of what our beautiful,
dedicated, hardworking ancestors have done to help make this country what it is
today.
This is the printout for Carberry family. I have high
lighted in red the 2 soldiers William Blunt and Vincent Walden for
Byrne/Carberry family. Ernest McCarthy is in Blue for the McCarthy family.
I have high lighted in red the the 2 sisters Ada Eileen wife of
Ernest and Muriel May Blunt Walden my grandmother and mother of Stanislaus and
Vincent (great granddaughters of Rosehanna Byrne and granddaughters for Sus
Carberry.
My father is in green as he has married into the Kiss/Mckee
family but is also Great great grandson of Rosehanna Byrne/Carberry Great
grandson of Susannah Carberry, Reid, Collingwood.
This family is
confusing and now getting bigger.
When we attended the funeral
last year of Lillian who died at 103 years and 10 months it was amazing to
see all the families come out of the woodworks but it was also gratifying to see
how much they loved her and held her such esteemed. I know they all knew
there was no monies or material goods to be had my anyone of us.
Patricia
Thanks
Patricia,
Regards,
Ian
From: janette simpson
Sent: Tuesday, 2 February 2010 4:38
AM
Subject: family history for the Eden Monaro Site
2nd February 2010.
Hi Ian,
My name is Janette Yvonne Simpson. My maiden name was
Morrison. I am a descendant of Isabella Inglis and Thomas Baird who came out on
the Samuel Plimsol from England. My grandfather was Alexander Thomas Baird
Morrison Janie Morrison's son.
According to your history Alex and Elsie only had one
son Harry Creswell Morrison. That is incorrect as they also had Jeffrey
Alexander Morrison who was born on 20th September 1914. He was my father. He
disappeared in 1945 at the end of the war and the search such as it was by all
concerned never revealed his whereabouts. I would like outr family history to be
included in your site. I can provide names links and dates. How do I go about
this. Please email me on (removed by Editor) I use my other grandfathers name as
my email address.
Please reply. Kind Regards, Janette Simpson nee
Morrison.
Hi
Janette,
We would be delighted to add
your family information to our site, just send me the details and I will
add it to the database and website. Your father is not on our records
purely because we have not received his information yet. Now we can rectify that
situation.
Regards,
Ian
From: janette simpson
Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 1:15
PM
Subject: Re: family history for the Eden Monaro Site
3rd February 2010
Hi Ian ,
Here is our family history that needs to be inserted into the
Eden Monaro pages. It fits into the Morrison history from
section Isabella Inglis / Janie Baird /Alexander Thomas Baird Morrison . I will
start at Alexander Thomas Baird Morrison as there is one correction here as to
the place that he died.
Alexander Thomas Baird Morrison was born in 1883 Bombala and
died 23/10/1962 at Lealholme Private Hospital Ashfield aged 78 . He was cremated
and placed in Rookwood Cemetry in Sydney. He had worked on farms in
the area of Delegate.
Alexander married Elsie Cowell daughter of William Holland
and Mary Jane Cowell on 20th December 1906 in Bombala NSW . Elsie
was born in 1889 in Queanbeyan. She died on December 2nd 1942 Delegate NSW at
the age of 53 and was buried in Delegate Cemetery NSW Grave 336 . They had two
children.
M 1. Harry Creswell Morrison was born in 1907 in Craigie near
Bombala NSW . He died on October 10 1937 in Goulburn NSW at age 30
and was buried on Oct 11 1937 in the Catholic Cemetry Kenmore
NSW.
Harry married his 2nd cousin Margaret Bell Mudie daughter of
Robert Coulson Maudie and Annie Elizabeth Morrison on May 27th 1931 at St Marys
Church Bombala NSW. Margaret was born on October 27th 1909 in DelegateNSW. She
died on September 15th 1956 in Yallourn Vic at age 46 and was buried on
September 18th 1956 in the Catholic Cemetery Delegate NSW. They had no
children
M 2. Jeffrey Alexander Morrison was born on 20th
September 1914 in Delegate. Jeffrey married Elsie Clarice Kent daughter of
William James Kent and Janet Adeline Patterson of Harden Murrumburrah. They
married at the Presbyterian Church Bridge Road Glebe on the 22nd December 1936.
Jeffrey was a fitter and turner and Elsie was a teacher.Elsie was born on 10th
July 1914 at Mt Dillion in the Harden Murrumburrah district. Her father was a
farmer. Elsie died in October 1998 in the Port Macquarie Private Hospital
at Port Macquarie. She is buried at Innes Gardens Memorial Park Port
Macquarie grave no B1131. She had a long distinguished career in
teaching, travelled widely, excelled in dressmaking,knitting , gardening,
pottery, cooking , and knitting . Jeffrey went to Sydney to work in Munitions
during the war and at Water Supply Depot at Camperdown . He left there in
October 1943. . Elsie stayed in Goulburn.
The last time she heard from him was Christmas 1942 when he
was living at 270 Bridge Rd Forest Lodge in the Glebe area of Sydney.The last
time he ever was on an electoral roll was at this address in 1944. Elsie
divorced Jeffrey naming an Edith Margaret Hyde as a person he had lived with for
many months.Since neither party could be found by her parents or his
parent the divorced was confined to desertion without just cause or excuse for 3
years and upwards.Jeffrey only saw his daughter Janette once in the first year
she was born. Since that time he has never been heard of again or appeared on
any electoral rolls.
They had 2 children Barry James Morrison born 1938 and
Janette Yvonne Morrison born 1942. Jeffrey and Elsie divorce Decri Nisi
was granted in 1947 and the custody of the children was granted to
Elsie.
FOURTH GENERATION
Barry James Morrison was born in Delegate. He married Frances
Sadie Crealy on October 1959 at Granville. He lives in Port Macquarie. They had
two children.
M. 1. Jeffrey David Morrison. He married Linda
Jean McMurray Nee Haywood. They had no children and are now
divorced.
F. 1. Paula Elizabeth Morrison ,
She married David J. Coia from America. Married 25/05/1988. They are both
teachers and have two daughters.
Janette Yvonne Morrison. She married Malcolm Kethel
Simpson 1965 at Bankstown. They had two children and are
now divorced. email bill.kent@bigpond.com.au
with any information or photos re Jeffrey Alexander
Morrison.
Ian a few dates and second names are missing. Since I cannot
reach anyone at present I will email them for inclusion later. I put in the
additional information about Jeffery and Elsie since someone reading it may
throw some light on what story did eventuate for Jeffrey. There may be step
sisters and brothers who knows. It would be good even to know a little . Or if
there were some old photos. I have 4 photos of my father way back when he was in
his 20s. Whatever the story it cannot hurt anyone now since they are all
deceased most probably. Wonder if I could leave my email in my
section?
Kind Regards, Janette Simpson nee Morrison.
Hi
Janette,
Thanks for the information, I
have updated the database and website.
Regards,
Ian
From: oddy
Sent: 2010-02-01 18:19
Subject: Enquiry
by Michael & Joy Conroy 12 Sept 2009 Thomas Flint
I am the great great grandaughter of Thomas Flint. I
have some information in regard to him and also have some contact information in
regard to the Brogan family. I am happy for you to pass on my email address to
the Conroys.
Maree Oddy (O'Brien)
Hi
Maree,
May we also have any
additional information on Thomas Flint for our records
please?
Regards,
Ian
From: Beryl Snowden
Sent: Monday, 1 February 2010 5:49
PM
To: lea
Subject: Fw: Names for photo
The penny has dropped .....no wonder it wasn't a valid
address.. I didn't use @... for -at- So I have now forwarded
Ian's original to Lea and sent Ian a cc of this. If you are a
desc. Lea , from which of the clan?
Cheers, from "not always this dumb"
Beryl
From: Beryl Snowden
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 5:26 PM
Subject: Names for photo
Hi Ian
with a cc to Lea...I hoped..but it says the address below,
copied and pasted from MP, is not a valid internet address. I am assuming
Lea is also a descendant..if so she might like to make contact at the address
you have for me on MP
In regard to the photo of Richard and Jane (nee
Lovelock) Venables supplied by Lea Davis-Lesiuk , I too, have a copy
of this photo, for they are my great grandparents and great aunts and
uncles..
I have named them all, with the name by which they were known
in brackets, and hope this will be added to the site.
My grandfather was James Richard (Jim) ....
Regards, Beryl
Hi
Beryl,
Thank you ... ah the senior
moments, how well I know them!
Regards,
Ian
From: De Klerk, Lyn
Sent: Monday, 1 February 2010 9:18
AM
Subject: Greer - Sorrell connection in database
Good morning Ian.
Firstly, thank you so much for your great work with the
Monaro Poineers site.
The reason for this email is because I can expand a
little on one of the families listed in the database, which will in turn provide
a link to another.
I was reminded of this fact by an entry in the January 2010
Newsletter from David Greer (who is in fact a relation of mine it
seems).
Under the family of Thomas Greer, his grandson Lawrence James
Greer married Millie Eileen. Her real name was Amelia (Millie)
Eileen Hall.
Amelia (Millie) Eileen Hall was a daughter of the
Amelia E Bean you have listed as a granddaughter of James Sorrell in the
database.
Please find below some extra information on Amelia E Bean
which will provide the link between the Greer and Sorrell
families.
Amelia (Millie) Elizabeth Bean was born in 1895 at
Cootamundra, NSW. She was married in 1912 to George Frederick Hall at
Queanbeyan, NSW. She died on 18 July 1976, in Queanbeyan NSW, and was buried on
20 July 1976 at the Queanbeyan Lawn Cemetery (Section F, Row B, Lot 19). Her
husband, George Frederick Hall (Snr) died in Canberra, ACT on 13 May 1947, aged
63. He was buried in the C of E Section, Riverside Cemetery, Queanbeyan,
NSW.
George and Amelia Hall (nee Bean) had the
following children:
Lila Isabel Hall - Born:
3 March1913 in Queanbeyan, NSW; Died: 20 January 2008, Queanbeyan
NSW
Lorna Hall -
Born:
@1915
Mabel Florence
Hall - Born:
1918 in Queanbeyan, NSW; Died: 19 January 1967 in Queanbeyan, NSW. Aged 48
Edna Marie Hall -
Born:
@ 1921;
Died:
19 May 1981, Queanbeyan
Amelia (Millie) Eileen
Hall - Born:
2 April 1924;
Died: 29
March 1987 in Queanbeyan
George Frederick
Hall - Born:
16 August 1925 in Queanbeyan, NSW;
Died:
25 June 1967 in Sydney, NSW. Aged 41
Nora Benita
Hall - Born:
@ 1928
I have also noticed a Roland Cecil Bean listed as a son of Amelia
Sorrell and Albert Arthur Bean in the database. That is incorrect. I have a copy
of Amelia Sorrell's death certificate and it lists only 5 children, none with
the name of Roland Cecil. Also, the BDM database states his age at death in 1969
as 55 years, which means he was born circa 1914, 3 years after Amelia died in
1911.
Thank you, Lyn de Klerk (nee Bean)
P.S. In case you were wondering about the family link between
David Greer and myself, it is that his grandmother, Amelia Elizabeth Bean, is a
sister of my great-grandfather, Augustus Charles Bean.
Hi
Lyn,
Thank you for the
information.
Regards,
Ian
From: Dale & Adrian
Sent: Sunday, 31 January 2010
8:19 PM
Subject: Descendants of William Inskip - Pioneers of Monaro
Website
Evening Ian,
My name is Dale Bellamy, and I have researching my family for
about 12 months now. I was bitten by the genealogical bug so to speak by
randomly googling my grandmother, Norma Jean Inskip. The first page I clicked on
was the was the Pioneers of Monaro website.
As I knew a little bit of my family history after reading
some of the information I knew the information is correct and has helped me in
my research alot, and which I thank you and all you volunteers
for.
I was thinking today, that I should send an email to you
thanking you for the fantastic work that has been put into the site, and also to
update, if you would like on some further generations, such as my parents
generation and beyond.
Please find attached (in Microsoft Word 2007), an update of a
small part of the Inskip Family. Please contact me for any further
information.
Kind regards, Dale Bellamy
Hi
Dale,
Thank you for the
information, we are glad our site has been able to help
you.
Regards,
Ian
From: Patricia Marsh
Sent: 2010-01-31
13:54
Subject: Military
Hi David this is where the Byrne, McCarthy, McKee and Kiss
families are linked
http://www.monaropioneers.com/byrne-w.htm#i80544
Grand
son Susannah Carberry, Great grandson Rosehanna Byrne
Title
BLUNT WILLIAM
JOHN : Service Number - N177051 : Date of birth - 11 Apr 1913 : Place of birth -
SYDNEY NSW : Place of enlistment - GLADESVILLE NSW : Next of Kin - BLUNT JEAN
Item barcode
6153845 Series number
B884 Series accession
number
2002/05064676
Control symbol
N177051
Contents date
range
1939 - 1948 Extent
Location
Canberra
Access status
Not yet
examined Reason for restriction
Date of decision
1 Jan 1970
Buried
Roman Catholic 21 - Row 9 - Grave 1302 Botany Cemetery
Great grandsons of
Susannah and Great Great of Rosehanna, Stan Married Margaret Phyllis Stanley
daughter of Kathleen Phyllis Kiss Stanley who was the daughter of William Kiss
and Mary McKee
Title
WALDEN STANISLAUS JAMES ERNEST : Service Number -
NX115480 : Date of birth - 11 Feb 1923 : Place of birth - SYDNEY NSW : Place of
enlistment - GUILDFORD WA : Next of Kin - WALDEN
STANISLAUS
Barcode
5653603Series number
B883 <http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/SeriesDetail.asp?M=0&B=B883>
Series accession number
2002/04608383
Control
symbol
NX115480
Contents date range
1939 -
1948Extent
Location
Canberra
Access status
OpenReason for
restriction
Date of decision
6 Aug 2002
Buried Shakespeare Dubbo 29
December 1986
Title
WALDEN THOMAS VINCENT : Service Number - 164168 :
Date of birth - 20 Apr 1924 : Place of birth - SYDNEY NSW : Place of enlistment
- SYDNEY : Next of Kin - WALDEN THOMAS
Barcode
5208073Series
number
A9301 <http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/SeriesDetail.asp?M=0&B=A9301>
Series accession number
2002/04901212
Control symbol
164168
Contents
date range
1939 - 1948Extent
Location
Canberra
Access
status
OpenReason for restriction
Date of decision
25 Jun
2005
Buried Roman Catholic 21 - Row 9 - Grave 1302 Botany
Cemetery
http://www.monaropioneers.com/mccarthy-w.htm
Ernest
Married Ada Eileen Blunt Grand daughter Susannah Carberry, Great granddaughter
Rosehanna Byrne Ada Eileen is Aunty to Stan and Vincent
Title
McCarthy
Ernest Victor : SERN 7788 : POB Cooma NSW : POE Sydney NSW : NOK F McCarthy
William
Barcode
1939152Series number
B2455 <http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/SeriesDetail.asp?M=0&B=B2455>
Series accession number
B2455/1
Control symbol
MCCARTHY E V
Contents
date range
circa 1914 - circa 1920Extent
Location
Not in
custody
Access status
OpenReason for restriction
Date of decision
12
Apr 2001
Buried
MCCARTHY ERNEST VICTOR
Burial RCMON/5/0916 26/10/1966 Woronora,
NSW
http://www.monaropioneers.com/kiss-j.htm
William
is Uncle to Margaret Stanley, Brother to Kathleen Phyllis Kiss Stanley and son
of William and Mary Kiss
Buried
Botany Cemetery Catholic section Grave
no 741 sect 1
Title
KISS WILLIAM : Service Number - V4447 : Date of birth
- 08 Feb 1904 : Place of birth - NIMMITYABLE VIC : Place of enlistment - ROYAL
PARK VIC : Next of Kin - KISS VERA
Series number
B884 Control
symbol
V4447 Contents date range
1939 - 1948
Access status
Open
Location
Canberra Barcode no
6614807
Service Record
Name
KISS, WILLIAM
Service Australian Army
Service Number V4447
Date of Birth 8 Feb 1904
Place of Birth NIMMITYABLE, VIC
Date of Enlistment 17 Jul 1940
Locality on Enlistment MIDDL
PARK, VIC
Place of Enlistment ROYAL PARK, VIC
Next of Kin
KISS, VERA
Date of Discharge 8 Jul 1945
Rank Warrant Officer Class
2
Posting at Discharge 7 Australian Ordnance Stores Company
WW2 Honours and Gallantry None for display
Prisoner of War No
Patricia Marsh
Hi
Patricia,
We have no family details for
Susanna Carberry as yet so am unable to make the connection with William John
Blunt? Also no family connections as yet for WALDEN, THOMAS
VINCENT.
Regards,
Ian
From: Lindsay Sainsbury
Sent: Sunday, 31 January 2010 1:57
PM
Subject: Monaro Pioneers
Hi Ian,
I came across your 'Monaro Pioneers' website whilst
researching my wife's family tree who is descended from the Kershaw/Buckley
families.
I have a few additions you may be interested in, namely the
family of Marcus Edward Russell and Martha
Margaret Kershaw.
There were seven children to the family, Kevin, Dorothy
Marie, Edna Veronica, Ronald Francis, Mark, Lucy and
Thelma Monica.
Dorothy Marie born c.1921 @
Adaminaby married Raymond Pope and had three children.
Anne Margaret Pope born c.1947 @
Sydney married Kuldeep Verdi and had one child, Nina Lucie
Verdi.
Elizabeth Rae Pope married David
Waddell and had two children. Justin Robert Waddell born c.1979 and
Lisa Maria Waddell born c.1980.
Marilyn Louise Pope born c.1953
married George Smiley and had two children. Peter Harold Smiley
born c.1981 and James Raymond Smiley born c.1983.
Edna Veronica born c.1924 @ Adaminaby married James
Salmon and had eight children.
Margaret Anne Salmon born c.1950,
James Russell Salmon born c.1953,
Maria Veronica Salmon born c.1954
[dec'd],
Sally Elizabeth Salmon born c.1955
married David Johnson.
Susan Mary Salmon born c.1957
married Anthony Connel.
Catherine Patricia Salmon born
c.1959.
Stephen Edward Salmon born
c.1960.
Elizabeth Carolyn born
c.1964.
Ronald Francis born c.1926 @ Tumut married Joan
Mathews and had four children.
Judith Maria Russell
born c.1956 married Stephen Butcher.
Patricia Mary Russell born
c.1957.
Bruce Russell.
Darin Russell born
c.1970.
Thelma Monica born c.1933 @ Adaminaby.
I hope the above will be of benefit to you.
Lindsay Sainsbury,
Leeton.
Hi
Lindsay,
Thank you for the
information.
Regards,
Ian
From: Graham Campbell
Sent: Monday, 1 February 2010 10:09
AM
Subject: Volunteers for WW2 Project
Dear Ian
Received the newsletter and I would like to volunteer for the
WW2 Project- Bega, Eden , Moruya, Queanbeyan and Tumut area. I have
recently retired and have been able to do more family research, as luck would
happen it was only two days ago I visited the NAA website for info on a
WW2 person- but it said “not yet examined”
My family were mainly in the Bombala area however some went
to Bega and another side of the family were in the Queanbeyan
area.
Could you please let me know how I can made a contribution to
the project
Thanks, Graham Campbell
Hi
Graham,
Thank you for the generous
offer of assistance, we welcome your involvement. Firstly, do you have any
Genealogy software to use? This is vital to the easy entry and management
of the information.
The process of the task is
identify all those individuals who were either born and/or enlisted in the towns
and villages in the areas in question. Starting with say Eden (but you can
choose where you want to start) and its surrounding district, you will need
to be become familiar with all the major and minor place names in that
locale. Having made a list of all the place names, you then need to search
the WW2 Nominal roll on the War Memorial Site by place to obtain a list of all
enlistees.
Each individual in that list
then needs to entered into your Genealogy Software with his details
and Military Service as an "event". Each place searched being a
separate database in your software with all relevant individuals located
therein. Where a person has died on active service, the
Commonwealth War Graves Commission site needs to be searched to establish burial
location for inclusion as well.
When all the individuals for
that place have been entered, the database for that place is then exported to a
gedcom file and sent to me for merging into the MP Database. Then you move
onto the next place and so on.
The specifics for the format
of the data entry we can discuss when your ready. How does that sound? If you
would like to talk about the process, my phone number is (removed by
Editor)
Regards,
Ian
From: Joan Jerzyna
Sent: Saturday, 30 January 2010 7:38
PM
Subject: re Roger Sheehy
Dear Ian,
Roger Sheehy
c1849 Billangera
Descendants of Roger Sheehy
Compiled from the new Monaro
Pioneers database: 17.10.07
with additional information supplied
by:
Joan Jerzyna [fhjoan-at-bigpond.com] 12.04.08
Mary Nicholls
[nicholls-at-activ8.net.au] 13.11.08
Some time ago I received an email telling me that some of the
information contained in the above site was incorrect. I have only just
now had the time to check this out, and I have spent a few days looking at
the Monaro Pioneer website. As a result there have been a number of
additions, corrections and alterations.
All additions, and/or alteration to dates have been taken
from actual Certificates obtained; or, after sighting of Church Registers at the
National Library in Canberra.
Trying to help you with all of these amendments I started
with a copy of the Roger Sheehy data obtained from the Monaro Pioneers
website.
The key to these amendments is --
1. Minor adjustments have been made and are highlighted
by being typed in a larger font and surrounded by a box; and,
2. On Page Nos. 3, 6, 7, 13, 14, 16 - all info
surrounded by a box and coloured “green” are to be removed
completely.
Roger Charles SHEEHY -- born 1855.
All information previously shown re Marriage and Children has
been deleted. That information is pertinent to Roger Charles SHEEHY, son
of John Sheehy and Catherine Brown. John Sheehy was a brother to Roger
Sheehy.
I have liaised with Mary Nicholls on this and trust that you
will ultimately be able to make the necessary alterations on the website. Please
contact me if you have any questions about all this. Thanking you for your
excellent work
Sincerely, Joan Jerzyna
Hi
Joan,
Thank you for the
information, I have updated our records and hopefully the website is now
correct.
Regards,
Ian
From: JAN
Sent: Sunday, 31 January 2010 1:10
PM
Subject: Rootsey
HI,I am descended from Charles Rootsey on my maternal
side.For many years I have been trying to find any photo's of the early
ancestors.Do you know of any contributor that may have any photo's relating to
the early days?Any help would be much appreciated. Thanking
You,Jeannette Spence, {Granddaughter of Peter Malcolm Rootsy and
Ethel Grace White}
Hi
Jeanette,
We can put your request in
the next newsletter and hopefully one of our readers may be able to
assist.
Regards, Ian
From: Pat & Frank Raymond
Sent: 2010-01-31
11:59
Subject: Cash Family
Hi David,
I just read the enquiry below and most probably I will be
able to assist as our Society does have the Pambula Voice on microfilm.
Would you please be able to forward me their email address so that I can make
contact. By the way, for your information there is no Pambula Historical
Society - we are Bega Valley Genealogy Society and we are based at the Old
Courthouse and Police Station in Pambula. We do research for people from Tilba
to the Victorian Border and up on the Monaro.
Regards Pat Raymond
From: Barry and Lucy Cash
Sent: Wednesday, 13 January
2010 4:30 PM
Subject: CASH Family, Eden.
Hi Ian
I'm Barry Cash from New Zealand. Found the 'Monaro' web site
and wondering if you can help. I'm looking for info on Joseph and Jane Cash,
residents of Eden, c.1872. I have info on their 9 children. What I'm looking for
is newspaper clips about the family from the Pambula Voice which I cant access
from here. Joseph was born in Suffolk, 1829, and joined the 43rd [Monmouthshire]
Regiment of Foot age 17/18 and served in Ireland, South Africa, India, and New
Zealand, where he was discharged and lived for about 3 years before moving to
Pambula, and then Eden where he married Jane in 1872. He died 1911. One of their
children, Arthur, came to NZ and started my branch of the CASH tree. Can
you can help, or pass me to some else?
Regards, Barry
Hi
Barry,
Sorry but we have no
transcription details of the Pambula Voice newspaper unfortunately. You
could try the Pambula Historical Society or the Bega Valley equivalent. You
mention 9 children, we only have details of 8, perhaps you might like to fill in
the blanks in our database?
Regards,
Ian
From: braddo
Sent: 2010-01-25
Subject:
Cotterill/Groves/Helmers family history
My name is Richard Bradley and I am a direct descendant
of the Cotterill line and also the Helmers line. My grandmother was Ethel
May Constance Groves (nee Cotterill) whose father was Charles Oliver Cotterill
son of Thomas Oliver Cotterill. and Sophia Cotterill (Banks)
Iam heading to Bombala on Thursday 28/1/2010 to do some research. I
believe Sophia Cotterill was the niece of Sir Joseph Banks, botanist with
Captain Cook.. I would like to know how to research the Banks side of the family
in UK and know if Sophia was related to Sir Joseph Banks.
Could you please add my name to your newsletter as I am very interested in
all of this.
Thanking you, Richard Bradley
Hi Richard,
We have no information that links Sophia Ban ks with Sir
Joseph Banks. That only means our information on Sophia includes her
mother and father's names but no details nor ancestors and
siblings.
Good luck with your
search.
Regards,
Ian
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